Posted on Dec 12, 2016
Former CIA operative calls for new presidential elections
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While I deplore possible Russian involvement in our elections, I think the results should stand, and I am not a Trump supporter.
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SSG Warren Swan
I think you're right. Obama is doing the right thing ordering a look into how this happened without saying Trump was involved, but both parties are really making this hard when they are both asking for an investigation on Trump compared to Obama's investigation as to who did it and how. I also believe this is a means of affecting the EC. There aren't many who aren't calling for a change, and the EC knows this, and one of the EC even came out and said he wouldn't give Trump his vote. If they punt this, Ryan chooses the president, McConnell the VP. It's a "win win" to some, well many, and would be tied up in court knowing Trump. Repubs would win big overall. Trump gone, and who they pic in. Dems win also with Trump out, and if they side with the GOP in their desire to get Trump out, they could be seen in a better light. The losers in this are us. We have allowed the process that has survived 241 years to falter due to arrogance, ignorance, incompetence, and greed.
Trump is right on ONE thing....Make America Great Again. She'll always be great to those who believe in her, but we the people (not the one percent or store bought politicians) can make her a lot better by getting rid of every single member of the hill and WH, and reshape what America means using the laws America already has and the people who really care from the poorest person to the highest income earners around.
Trump is right on ONE thing....Make America Great Again. She'll always be great to those who believe in her, but we the people (not the one percent or store bought politicians) can make her a lot better by getting rid of every single member of the hill and WH, and reshape what America means using the laws America already has and the people who really care from the poorest person to the highest income earners around.
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SPC Kevin Ford
My thought as well. I fail to see how this invalidates the election. At it's worst this is dirty politics by a foreign country to change public opinion. If we invalidated every election because of that, well I'm not sure we've ever had a valid election under that standard.
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SSG Warren Swan This is a paragraph I copied and pasted from this article.
The only thing the CIA is CERTAIN of is Wiki Leaks hacked emails are probably connected to the RUSSIANS...BUT!!!! they have NO evidence it was directed by the KREMLIN...could have been any Russian.
The bottom line is these EMAILS, though hacked, are REAL EMAILS...that embarrassed Hillary Clinton and her people and the DEMOCRATIC party....It may or may not have had an impact on the ELECTION! The truth of the matter is HILLARY WRONG DOINGS were EXPOSED by these hacked emails....whether Wikileaks exposed her or some news paper or magazine got a hold of these and exposed her DOES NOT MATTER because there is ARE NO LIES regarding these emails....the FBI has confirmed all of the emails to be REAL....SHAME ON HILLARY and the DEMOCRATIC Party and the DNC for PLAYING DIRTY...for LYING to the PEOPLE...For pulling a WOOL over their eyes....FOR getting questions for debates ahead of time and sharing the with Hillary so she can be better prepared to answer and or respond to the questions being asked to her...SHAME ON THEM ALL!!! This has Nothing to do with TRUMP and his people. They did not commit a crime... They did not hack the DNC or Hillarys PRIVATE server....ALL is fair in the WAR for running for president, right? I mean after all had we never found out about the emails and the DNC CHEATING on the debate questions, WE WILL NEVER KNOW if Hillary really would have won, do we?????
SGT (Join to see) MCPO Roger Collins SSG Jarrod Stover Cpl (Join to see) Cpl Joshua Caldwell Cpl Mark McMiller PVT James Strait Capt (Join to see) @po3 ricky foster
The Washington Post reported Friday that the CIA concluded in a secret assessment that Russia interfered in the race to boost Trump, not just undermine confidence in the system. Intelligence agencies reportedly found individuals connected to the Russian government gave WikiLeaks hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee, as well as from Hillary Clinton Campaign Chairman John Podesta – though the agencies did not have “specific intelligence” showing Kremlin officials directed the activity
The only thing the CIA is CERTAIN of is Wiki Leaks hacked emails are probably connected to the RUSSIANS...BUT!!!! they have NO evidence it was directed by the KREMLIN...could have been any Russian.
The bottom line is these EMAILS, though hacked, are REAL EMAILS...that embarrassed Hillary Clinton and her people and the DEMOCRATIC party....It may or may not have had an impact on the ELECTION! The truth of the matter is HILLARY WRONG DOINGS were EXPOSED by these hacked emails....whether Wikileaks exposed her or some news paper or magazine got a hold of these and exposed her DOES NOT MATTER because there is ARE NO LIES regarding these emails....the FBI has confirmed all of the emails to be REAL....SHAME ON HILLARY and the DEMOCRATIC Party and the DNC for PLAYING DIRTY...for LYING to the PEOPLE...For pulling a WOOL over their eyes....FOR getting questions for debates ahead of time and sharing the with Hillary so she can be better prepared to answer and or respond to the questions being asked to her...SHAME ON THEM ALL!!! This has Nothing to do with TRUMP and his people. They did not commit a crime... They did not hack the DNC or Hillarys PRIVATE server....ALL is fair in the WAR for running for president, right? I mean after all had we never found out about the emails and the DNC CHEATING on the debate questions, WE WILL NEVER KNOW if Hillary really would have won, do we?????
SGT (Join to see) MCPO Roger Collins SSG Jarrod Stover Cpl (Join to see) Cpl Joshua Caldwell Cpl Mark McMiller PVT James Strait Capt (Join to see) @po3 ricky foster
The Washington Post reported Friday that the CIA concluded in a secret assessment that Russia interfered in the race to boost Trump, not just undermine confidence in the system. Intelligence agencies reportedly found individuals connected to the Russian government gave WikiLeaks hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee, as well as from Hillary Clinton Campaign Chairman John Podesta – though the agencies did not have “specific intelligence” showing Kremlin officials directed the activity
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MCPO Roger Collins
The misdirection is succeeding, the focus is on the messenger rather than the message. The Dems despicable antics and the press acting as partners in the effort to coronate Hillary. Who gives a rat's patoot how their actions were revealed. Did the left get their collective panties in a wad about how Trump's comments came about on womey? Hypocratic A-holes.
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SSG Warren Swan
Sgt Kelli Mays - the very paragraph you used is the very thing that should be investigated. It doesn't matter about the who's, it matters about the "how's". Obama is investigating the "how's" being this could very well happen again and be part of a larger effort to undermine everyone. Obama has NOT mentioned going after Trump at all. It doesn't matter if he did or did not.
"Intelligence agencies reportedly found individuals connected to the Russian government gave WikiLeaks hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee, as well as from Hillary Clinton Campaign Chairman John Podesta – though the agencies did not have “specific intelligence”. You can dress this up and call it what you will, but if they said "Russian government", do they really have to find out an exact name in the Kremlin to place blame? DoD is not "government", but it IS a part of the government. Russia and China both have parts that are "state sponsored" in their hacks, but you'd have to dig really deep to find a particular person, let alone blame A person. Trump in this case has mentioned things that for "appearances sake" would make him not know anything, but when it happens almost as he said it would, the intel is faulty? "Hacking is interesting"? Really now? Who didn't know that? Certainly not anyone working in the Cyber business. "Once they hack if you don't catch them in the act you're not going to catch them". Wow. For a "clueless" man he seems to know a lot more than the average clueless innocent and naive man should know. Especially when that statement is false.
Everyone now wants to know everything the government is doing. Everyone is paranoid and thinks everyone else but them is some super spy from a Clancy novel. When the administration opens their gums to tell folks, the message is lost due to folks not liking the message, feeling the message isn't complete, not understanding the message, or flat out think the administration and government as a whole has it's head in the sand. They also get mad and butthurt when they're not told of what repercussions we are going to level on the "other side". This isn't an Obama thing, it is an EVERY administration thing. You cannot hide building up a sizable force to deploy. You can see it from money suddenly spent, troop training increases, tv, and the troops themselves telling family on social media they got movement orders. You CAN hide cyber retaliation easily. And for once, we finally have something that "the swamp" cannot predict, show, or even talk about. Snowden can say what he wants now. Everything he knew access wise is in some way or form "corrected", or knowing our government, "over corrected".
"Intelligence agencies reportedly found individuals connected to the Russian government gave WikiLeaks hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee, as well as from Hillary Clinton Campaign Chairman John Podesta – though the agencies did not have “specific intelligence”. You can dress this up and call it what you will, but if they said "Russian government", do they really have to find out an exact name in the Kremlin to place blame? DoD is not "government", but it IS a part of the government. Russia and China both have parts that are "state sponsored" in their hacks, but you'd have to dig really deep to find a particular person, let alone blame A person. Trump in this case has mentioned things that for "appearances sake" would make him not know anything, but when it happens almost as he said it would, the intel is faulty? "Hacking is interesting"? Really now? Who didn't know that? Certainly not anyone working in the Cyber business. "Once they hack if you don't catch them in the act you're not going to catch them". Wow. For a "clueless" man he seems to know a lot more than the average clueless innocent and naive man should know. Especially when that statement is false.
Everyone now wants to know everything the government is doing. Everyone is paranoid and thinks everyone else but them is some super spy from a Clancy novel. When the administration opens their gums to tell folks, the message is lost due to folks not liking the message, feeling the message isn't complete, not understanding the message, or flat out think the administration and government as a whole has it's head in the sand. They also get mad and butthurt when they're not told of what repercussions we are going to level on the "other side". This isn't an Obama thing, it is an EVERY administration thing. You cannot hide building up a sizable force to deploy. You can see it from money suddenly spent, troop training increases, tv, and the troops themselves telling family on social media they got movement orders. You CAN hide cyber retaliation easily. And for once, we finally have something that "the swamp" cannot predict, show, or even talk about. Snowden can say what he wants now. Everything he knew access wise is in some way or form "corrected", or knowing our government, "over corrected".
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Well heck if we want a redo because a hack exposed the criminal acts of one candidate, then how would we ever remove that information from the voters minds? While we are talking about a redo, why dont we remove the money from foreign entities like Saudi Arabia?
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SSG Warren Swan
If we really went in on those who aren't helping those who elected them, then hells yeah YOU'RE FIRED. I'm wholeheartedly willing to do that to SA and I'd add in Israel.
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