Posted on May 26, 2018
Former McCain CO sentenced at court-martial for fatal collision
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I agree that homicide charges might have been a stretch. But a sentence that essentially is a reprimand, a $6000 fine, and allowed to retire at current rank. 10 joes died, and you’re the skipper of the boat that apparently forget how to do...I don’t know, ‘boatey’ things, that shouldn’t have happened. I was never a sailor, but I don’t think that US warships not crashing in to civilian ships is an unreasonable standard to maintain.
10 joes died on your boat, sir. And more importantly, where are my Admirals at? Because that clown show let it happen multiple times on their watch.
10 joes died on your boat, sir. And more importantly, where are my Admirals at? Because that clown show let it happen multiple times on their watch.
Former McCain CO sentenced at court-martial for fatal collision
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SGT (Join to see) I know I’m
Late to the party, I’ve had a lot of travel and work and hadn’t been on RP for a few days.
I’d say he was in command, and therefor bears responsibility for everything his crew does or fails to do. I’ve read the full AAR from the Navy, and if 10 Sailors weren’t dead as a result I would recommend it as near slapstick comedy. That ship and crew were doing multiple things wrong, and it seemed to be the norm on the vessel.
That said, they did also hit other key leaders in charge at the time, and it seems like the Navy has some wider institutional issues to investigate.
Two major collisions in short order, both AARs showing unsafe practices and unfamiliarity with ships systems is hugely alarming. It appears that the Navy has struggled some with the GWOT era lack of peer competitor, just as the Army has struggled to maintain certain key warfifhting capabilities while focusing on COIN deployments. That is more alarming with the Navy I think, given the catestrophic results of a collision. The defense was likely correct that this could have been 100 dead or a capsized ship.
In the end, the admiral who retired, and the other officers careers who are over probably is a proper response (their actions seem to be deriliction if duty, yes, but their intent was never malicious), but more importantly I hope the Navy as a whole is jolted into some serious introspection and reform given these incidents, and the common thread in the AARs.
Late to the party, I’ve had a lot of travel and work and hadn’t been on RP for a few days.
I’d say he was in command, and therefor bears responsibility for everything his crew does or fails to do. I’ve read the full AAR from the Navy, and if 10 Sailors weren’t dead as a result I would recommend it as near slapstick comedy. That ship and crew were doing multiple things wrong, and it seemed to be the norm on the vessel.
That said, they did also hit other key leaders in charge at the time, and it seems like the Navy has some wider institutional issues to investigate.
Two major collisions in short order, both AARs showing unsafe practices and unfamiliarity with ships systems is hugely alarming. It appears that the Navy has struggled some with the GWOT era lack of peer competitor, just as the Army has struggled to maintain certain key warfifhting capabilities while focusing on COIN deployments. That is more alarming with the Navy I think, given the catestrophic results of a collision. The defense was likely correct that this could have been 100 dead or a capsized ship.
In the end, the admiral who retired, and the other officers careers who are over probably is a proper response (their actions seem to be deriliction if duty, yes, but their intent was never malicious), but more importantly I hope the Navy as a whole is jolted into some serious introspection and reform given these incidents, and the common thread in the AARs.
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Great response. I totally get what you mean with the Army. But, it seems like someone had taken notice because there is a recent renewed focus on basic Army Warrior Skills. I know the Marines announced last year in MARADMIN 693/17 "That all Marines - from privates through general officers will have to pass the General Battle Skills test annually starting (this year)". Maybe the Army took note.
It seems like there had been a shift, and we NCOs better grab these reigns now and take back control of the training beast while the opportunity is here.
What I have not heard is what or if the Airforce is doing.
It seems like there had been a shift, and we NCOs better grab these reigns now and take back control of the training beast while the opportunity is here.
What I have not heard is what or if the Airforce is doing.
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SMSgt Thor Merich
1SG (Join to see) - Over the last few years, the Air Force has/is slowly transitioning away from ancillary training that has become redundant and takes time away from valuable core training. At the same time, they are going back to basics and trying to focus on core job training. We had our fiasco several years ago with all the nuclear incidents (that luckily did not lead to loss of life) that caused the AF to reevaluate itself.
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