Posted on Mar 2, 2018
Georgia teacher in custody after allegedly opening fire in classroom, police say
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Perhaps the concept of giving consent for privately deciding to carry or formally issuing concealed weapons to 700,000+ teachers may be somewhat problematic. The nature of teaching profession attracts, retains, and protects a lot of people with mental illness - including individuals with bipolar disorder - who may end up in depressed, manic, or mixed states - whether on or off their medications - producing risk to themselves and risks to others.
President Trump - after becoming aware of this teachable moment - tweeted I never said "give teachers guns” - what I said was to look at the possibility of giving concealed guns to the best 20% of gun adept teachers with military or special training experience - only the best.
In this incident - teacher - described as an "excellent teacher" and one of "the best" - was arrested and charged with aggravated assault, carrying a weapon on school grounds, terroristic threats, reckless conduct, possession of a gun during commission of a crime, and disrupting public school.
Warmest Regards, Sandy :)
President Trump - after becoming aware of this teachable moment - tweeted I never said "give teachers guns” - what I said was to look at the possibility of giving concealed guns to the best 20% of gun adept teachers with military or special training experience - only the best.
In this incident - teacher - described as an "excellent teacher" and one of "the best" - was arrested and charged with aggravated assault, carrying a weapon on school grounds, terroristic threats, reckless conduct, possession of a gun during commission of a crime, and disrupting public school.
Warmest Regards, Sandy :)
Georgia teacher in custody after allegedly opening fire in classroom, police say
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Here's my respectful counterpoint Sandy-Concealed Carry shouldn't come with "restrictions" once someone has passed the associated background checks, classroom and range instruction, and been duly issued a permit by the state government.
I'm not a "fan" of the idea of intentionally "arming teachers"; anyone who has even a minute level of tactical training understands the risks associated. However, I am in support of allowing people to exercise their rights and earned privileges free of arbitrary limits. To get my CC permit took three months and several hundred dollars...and I had a valid SF-86 at the time, and live in a "gun friendly" state.
This educator pulled a political stunt...plain and simple. They didn't do this because they are suffering from emotional or mental instability, but rather, because they were willing to face consequences to further their cause.
As regards "depressed, manic or mixed states"; I can assure you that there were countless times while on active duty I could've been "diagnosed" with any or all of the above while in theater, loaded up with not one, but two weapons, plenty of ammo and body armor. If I had a psychiatrist examine me at the end of each and every day now, I'm sure they'd prescribe something at least four out of five working days.
There are certainly people with real mental and emotional health issues, and if they are being concurrently treated for it...I think that should be closely examined before issuing a CCP. However, we shouldn't limit freedoms and personal safety unilaterally just because someone "may" be a ticking time bomb.
I'm not a "fan" of the idea of intentionally "arming teachers"; anyone who has even a minute level of tactical training understands the risks associated. However, I am in support of allowing people to exercise their rights and earned privileges free of arbitrary limits. To get my CC permit took three months and several hundred dollars...and I had a valid SF-86 at the time, and live in a "gun friendly" state.
This educator pulled a political stunt...plain and simple. They didn't do this because they are suffering from emotional or mental instability, but rather, because they were willing to face consequences to further their cause.
As regards "depressed, manic or mixed states"; I can assure you that there were countless times while on active duty I could've been "diagnosed" with any or all of the above while in theater, loaded up with not one, but two weapons, plenty of ammo and body armor. If I had a psychiatrist examine me at the end of each and every day now, I'm sure they'd prescribe something at least four out of five working days.
There are certainly people with real mental and emotional health issues, and if they are being concurrently treated for it...I think that should be closely examined before issuing a CCP. However, we shouldn't limit freedoms and personal safety unilaterally just because someone "may" be a ticking time bomb.
The principal was surprised? Why? This teacher had already been involved in two incidents that should have resulted in his no longer being trusted with a classroom filled with students:
http://time.com/5179477/dalton-high-school-shooting/
"And just over a year ago, school employees and a police officer began searching Dalton High School after Davidson went missing. He was finally found sitting on the curb along a street a few blocks from the campus, being propped up by two school staff members, police said. “I attempted to speak with Davidson as did staff members but no amount of stimulus would draw a response,” an officer wrote in his report. Davidson was then taken to a hospital.
In 2016, Davidson walked into the lobby of the Dalton police headquarters and told a wild story including his suspicions that someone had been murdered, police said. Detectives couldn’t verify that any of it was true, and he was taken to the hospital since he’d expressed thoughts of hurting himself, police wrote in their report on that episode."
http://time.com/5179477/dalton-high-school-shooting/
"And just over a year ago, school employees and a police officer began searching Dalton High School after Davidson went missing. He was finally found sitting on the curb along a street a few blocks from the campus, being propped up by two school staff members, police said. “I attempted to speak with Davidson as did staff members but no amount of stimulus would draw a response,” an officer wrote in his report. Davidson was then taken to a hospital.
In 2016, Davidson walked into the lobby of the Dalton police headquarters and told a wild story including his suspicions that someone had been murdered, police said. Detectives couldn’t verify that any of it was true, and he was taken to the hospital since he’d expressed thoughts of hurting himself, police wrote in their report on that episode."
SFC Robert Walton
1LT (Join to see) - LOL Thanks for the comment and No to all the above I Really don't want a fully auto weapon of any kind I Prefer aiming at a target and knowing what I am shooting rather than spray and hope. Have a nice day LT.
SSG Robert Webster
1LT Sandy Annala - No where close to being an expert on civilian or military weapons; and would not make such a claim. As far as 'registration' goes, that depends on a considerable number of factors, but I believe that you are thinking along the lines of NICS and other like databases to include ones such as the "no fly list." In that case, I am not an expert either, but the knowledge about them come from practical experience in software programming and testing, genealogy research, and long years of experience with GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out). And as far as why full auto weapons and why they may be unfit for routine civilian purposes, that falls into the same reasons as why full auto is unfit for routine military purposes, plus one addition - damaging a carcass to the point that it (the carcass) is not fit for human consumption. There is one caveat with this one - suppressive fire could be considered routine military use, but it can also be accomplished with either a semiauto or bolt action weapon as well.
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SGT Gregory Lawritson - I really didn't intend to wind you up - but your story is a joy to hear - and your experiences sound delightful. I see no reason not to enjoy the fire of full auto weapons in the desert - away from big city problems and twitchy school teachers. There is no good reason for any kind of politician to take that away from you - assuming the proper paperwork, background investigation, and tax stamps. Warmest Regards, Sandy :)
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SGT Gregory Lawritson - I understand - but why not a Walther 9mm or for that matter a shotgun - for home defense? An AR-15 may be effective - but you actually have to aim at a human target (difficult for some folks) - the shotgun only needs to be pointed in the approximate direction of the noise or varmint. Warmest Regards, Sandy :)
The thought that there are many throughout our society is not a newsflash. I’m sure many educators would be irate at your insinuation. We have a serious issue in this area, and it’s not just more gun control, but limits placed on medical records confidentiality.
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/mental-illness.shtml
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/mental-illness.shtml
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