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CPT Jack Durish
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The first "Tea Parties" weren't a political association. They were events, spontaneous gatherings of citizens concerned with the direction of the nation. "Taxed Enough Already" was a cute play on the word "TEA" which followed the first tea parties. Professional politicians quaked at the sight of these events because they were a true grass roots movement. Nancy Pelosi infamously attacked them as "Astro-turf" and operatives attempted to establish a narrative that these gatherings weren't spontaneous, but rather paid for by nefarious persons such as the evil Koch Brothers. Anything to discredit them. Sadly, like most people who vent their spleen in public outcries, the attendees picked up their trash and went home hoping they had effected real "change". They hadn't. Real change requires a steady application of pressure over time, long periods of time. Look at how long the progressives took to establish their narrative and move the nation to the left - more than a century. Efforts like that need organization and some have attempted to capitalize on those first spontaneous gatherings. "Tea Party" organizations have sprung up. I've attended a few. Sadly, they're poorly organized and currently dominated by the loudest, not necessarily the wisest voices. Thus, they are not the official voice of conservatives. Conservatives simply haven't yet discovered that they need a voice. I hope they do before it's too late...
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CPT Jack Durish
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MSgt (Join to see) - Thank you but I'm afraid that I was a lightning rod for trouble. I don't think my men enjoyed that very much
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MSgt (Join to see) - I think he should be writing books....!
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CPT Jack Durish
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Cpl (Join to see) - Very, very, sadly true
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CW4 Leonard White
CW4 Leonard White
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CPT Jack Durish, your analysis of the TEA "party" is very well stated. I've been interested in how the "movement" would play out over the years...would it lead to a significant change and be political force or would it "flame out" after a few years. Well it appears that it is flaming out.
I think the conservative movement is in disarray at the moment. This disarray is what's lead to the rise of Trump, who I don't believe is a conservative. What he is is for another comment in the future. You are so very right when you say the conservative movement needs a leader that can articulate why conservatism (true conservatism) is the better form of government.
I know Conservatism means different things to different people but to me it means being thoughtful, managing the resources, getting out of the citizens personal affairs, setting the right balance between business opportunity and regulations...and, of course, taxes.
Just let me say this, I'm a register unaffiliated independent. Sorry to say I don't trust either major political party. Yes, after 30 years of Army service, I'm naturally conservative but I don't recognize today's "conservative" leaders.
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The problem with most politicians is they forget and abandon the philosophies for which they where elected. Many in Washington are beholding to special interest groups and fall under the pressures of the Washington Cartel. I would suppose Bernie Sanders feels extremely ostracized by the DNC. So in reality it is not surprising that anyone would fall out of favor when rocking the boat.
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LTC Immigration Judge
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No, th problem is those who get to Wshington and think that if they are obstinate enough the other side will eventually just agree with them.

The US is not a conservative or a liberal country, it is a plural and diverse country that requires representatives to compromise to find solutions that are not hard right or hard left. Those who think they can legislate us to hard-left utopia or hard-right theocracy do nothing except make their party look stupid.
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MSgt Electrical Power Production
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I actually can find no fault in your argument Major.
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CPT Jack Durish
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MSgt (Join to see) - I can but I can't tell him. He blocked me. There are plenty of surveys which show that the US is decidedly conservative. Sadly, conservatives are, well, conservative. They don't get out much. They don't want people telling them what to do. Thus, they are not inclined to tell others what to do. (Remember, Do unto others...?) The progressives have no such compunction. Thus, despite the fact they are in the minority, they have been able to move the country to the left. It's taken them more than a century (beginning with Woodrow Wilson) to do it, but slow and steady wins the race. They are the passive aggressives of politics. They whine until they win, even it its an inch, they'll take a mile every time.
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MSgt Electrical Power Production
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CPT Jack Durish -
Again I would agree with your assessment!
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LTC Stephen F.
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Thankfully the Tea Party is not a monolithic movement SSG Michael Hartsfield
I have been a first principal voter for decades and embrace some of the core Tea Party concepts.
I receive emails from national and local groups which range from conservative republican to libertarian in their focus.
As far as Renee Ellmers is concerned, there are always some people who will dissatisfied with how their elected official performs once in office.
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MCPO Roger Collins
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You are right. Many Tea Party haters don't have a clue of the make-up or ever all platform, if it still exists.
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Capt Retired
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It today's political world many people do not even have an idea of the make-up and platform of the party the rigidly support.
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