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I'm not afraid of the S-400 either. Israeli fighters (old model F15 & F16 jets) have routinely attached Iranian and other military sites in Syria, and most or all of them came out unscathed.

What is concerning is that a NATO Member Turkey is giving Russia billions of dollars for weapons systems. It's time to review the NATO agreement and terminate or penalize/fine Turkey for supporting Russian military production.
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Sgt Wayne Wood
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I agree with your second point, as to the first, i don’t believe the S-400 is widely deployed in Syria, if at all. Even if it is, it’s only protecting Soviet, er Russian, installations.

Having said that... i wonder how weasels would fare.
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MCPO Roger Collins
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Excellent point!
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Sgt Wayne Wood - concur, they may not have the latest S-400 system installed.
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That defense sounds like the one NATO and the USA employed when they installed the missile defense system.
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We need to review all weapons sales/agreements with Turkey- they are becoming an Autocratic/Theocratic state, with Erdogan as the main man in charge. Kemal Atatürk is probably rolling over in his grave. I used to want to go visit there, now I'm not so sure.
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LTC (Join to see) - I spent quite a bit of time in EUCOM, I understand what you are saying about Turkey and the directions they appear to be heading.
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Ha... we should definately be concerned.

1. A NATO member with US ties and equipment has decided to purchase Russian weapons systems that aren't compatable. This means that if our alliances have to fight together, our planes and their air defenses can't communicate and identify each other. Ask those British Tornado pilots from 2001 what happens when one country flies a plane over another country's air defense system without communicating - ally or not, something is getting shot.

2. It is politically creating a wedge whereby Russia is looking to replace NATO alliances and take measures (step by step) tying these country's military to their own.

3. It gives a volitile Turkey an edge in an arms race that could impact our war fighters. They bought Russian air defense and US planes... just have some war games, sell the deficiencies and limitations of the weapons systems, and then an enemy has an advantage.
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Sgt Wayne Wood
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Point #1... when i was wandering around back in the day ADA had two mottoes...”if it flies, it dies” & “kill ‘em all & let God sort ‘em out”

Point #2... agreed

Point #3 and we are selling them F-35s which i mentioned in another thread was the same as giving them to Putin

Turkey ain’t our friend & ally... NATO or not
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