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I think I remember Door2Door Geek from Podnutz talking highly about this guy and his influence on CoreOS. I remember presenting to a class about Linux and talking about how to slim-line the kernel as it holds drivers all users don't need - serial, firewire, etc - and I got a lot of "huh? how?" looks even after fully explaining it.

Thanks for the share. I agree. And because more open source software ensure their product works on Linux (and maybe BSD), that counts.
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SSgt Mark Lines
SSgt Mark Lines
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SGT (Join to see) Everything I have read about him says that he is "awesome". Someday I will get ambitious enough to streamline my kernel. I am at the stage right now where I just want things to work. I am looking forward to the future with open source software.
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SSG John Erny
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M$ has their hands deep into the hardware folks products. UEFI tends to cause a lot of problems with Linux and the rumor is that with Windows 10 M$ may require that UEFI and secure boot can not be turned off. M$ hates compition. What have you seen? SSgt Mark Lines
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SCPO Joshua I
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So Microsoft may not require that pc vendors write functionality into their bios to support an unmeasurable low percentage of the desktop computing world that no one cares about, because Microsoft isn't using that functionality, and this is microsoft's fault how again?

First, secure boot is a feature. "Linux" should take advantage of it. If you don't want to, find a motherboard vendor that will support you - it's not microsoft's problem to create PCs that are compatible with your toy operating system.
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SSG John Erny
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SCPO Joshua I - Well I am an MCSA and have been working with Windows professionally since NT 4.0. I support 250 computers most on an AD DS domain along with about 50 Servers which most are Windows Server(s). I know windows quite well and have a fully customized MDT 2013 Deployment Solution for it. I am also going to graduate this fall with a degree in Networking and Security.
That toy Operating System is the heart of several critical systems at my work site including 911 calls. Linux is solid and stable OS for mission critical Servers and Appliances such as firewalls, anti-intrusion, content filters, spam filters, VPN tunnels, etc. It will run on devices such as that for a very long time and never require a reboot.
That Toy Operating system is on HP start up disks for performing setup and maintenance of HP Servers such as the DL 380 series, I use them all the time. Many of your rescue CD’s from various venders again use Linux. Both Windows and Linux have their place.
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SCPO Joshua I
SCPO Joshua I
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Well, I've been supporting computers using a wide variety of operating systems (including Linux, Windows, BSD, QNX, CX/UX, HPUX, Solaris, and some others you probably haven't heard of) professionally since before Windows existed, and I have a BS in Computer Science and an MS in Information Assurance...

Linux is a toy. What you refer to as a Linux that may be affected by some imagined MS plot to foist secure boot on all computing bears exactly zero resemblance to the "Linux" running mission critical servers and such -- and most of those are not running Linux or any variant of it, they are running real operating systems like QNX or a BSD variant. As you may not know, Linux is a graduate school student's toy project to create a training environment because BSD wasn't widely available to students at that time. BSD or AIX is the standard in industry and has been for forty years, QNX is the standard for RTOS and will continue to be for the forseeable future. Yes, lots of web servers run LAMP on a variant of Linux -- that again, bears no resemblance to what you think of as Linux.

Embedded Linux is not some hand rolled desktop Linux that might be affected by secure boot.

Desktop Linux as a concept is a toy. No one uses it, and no one cares. None of the things you describe are desktop linux or related to it in any way other than a name used by people that don't know any better. The desktop is mostly owned by Microsoft, with honorable mention to Apple who has the only successful desktop Unix variant ever deployed. Linux isn't even a rounding error in that discussion.
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SSG John Erny
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Yes, I know of all of those. BSD is a fine product in its own right, Sun Systems Solaris even had a foot print here before it was replace by a solution from ArcGIS. OS/400 is and oldy but a goody, strong as ever, we have two in the server room.
I am not knocking Microsoft when I call them M$ it is a great Operating System. There Lic.'s and CAL's are a budget breaker for many smaller organizations who do not have deep pockets. Microsoft does use its influence and vast wealth to infleunce the industry as a whole and has been sued for it on a number of occasions for it and lost.
Linux as a desktop is inovation, it is people from around the world working togather to learn, expand, and make information technology better. I have put it on several people's computers who are so click happy that they can not keep out of trouble despite having good antivirus; they can still surf the web and check the mail. They really liked it, and i did not have to rebuild their computer again.
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It is so flexible and usefull in so many places that windows just does not belong. Firewalls, security appliances. That friends laptop who is always bothering you to rebuilt it because it is infected yet again. I really like Mint for virus prone home users, it really keeps them out of trouble.
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SSgt Mark Lines
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SSG John Erny I can't agree more. Ironically, I just did my friend's laptop from Windows Vista to Mint 18 and it runs like a champ. He said that it runns faster than it did when it was new.
I also put Mint 18 Cinnamon on my own laptop as well. My HTPC runs Kodi on top of Mint 18. If you did not know I was running Linux, you would think I bought a special machine.
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SSG John Erny
SSG John Erny
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Linux is so powerfull and flexible. We have a about a half dozen servers running it, for highly specialized applications. It just works. Pun intended.
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SSG John Erny - I'm with you on Mint for newbies. Did I ever get your and SSgt Mark Lines input on my Linux Mint post ?

I think I'm the oddball again. Ubuntu Studio is my #1 now. Mint is too boring and lacking with what I need. I also found out the hard way Mint 17.3 couldn't handle the newest kdenlive.

http://golivelively.com/2015/10/19/linuxmint/
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