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SFC Mark Merino
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If a recruit says he wants to kill himself in the early stages of boot camp, they should have just got rid of him. Marines aren't known for tolerating weakness, either physical or mental. Hazing,or whatever you want to call it, has been around forever. It can go too far, but that needs to be dealt with on a case by case basis. There is great training value in doing things that can be considered hazing. One man's hazing is another man's lesson in mental toughness. But if someone pushes the envelope and someone sustains an injury, they need to be accountable. I'm not saying that this suicide was preventable and I not saying someone needs to go to prison and have the key thrown away, but if someone can't handle the stress and strain of boot/basic, they probably weren't going to be the worthy asset that other service members require. Marines are praised for their ability to thrive in adverse conditions. How did they get to become that reliable? It wasn't by tucking them into their racks, ensuring they got their 8 hours, and were fed steak and lobster. They didn't get participation medals for every obstacle they overcame. So let's not reinvent the wheel and 'fix' ANYONE'S initial training, unless you want to make it tougher or have even higher standards. In the Army, when you went to Fort Benning to become a grunt, you left there lean, mean,and mentally porous. When you got to your next assignment you were able to absorb knowledge and training because you ceased being an individual who was only concerned for their own needs. That comes at a high price. It requires serious mental retraining. You were totally beat down and rebuilt. ('Born again hard'). You can see the difference between people trained to type and people trained to kill. So please don't try to fill the ranks of those needed to embrace the suck with those who expect to type from 9-5 with weekends off n the name of political correctness or some accepted civilian approved level of moral goodness.
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MSG Wade Huffman
MSG Wade Huffman
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Well said!
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SSgt Terry P.
SSgt Terry P.
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SFC Mark Merino Absolutely dead on ,Mark.
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Cpl Thomas Woods
Cpl Thomas Woods
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Very well said, especially from one outside the fold.....But at the end of the day, a grunt is a grunt. And as you implied a pogue is a pogue. But then again.....The Island is no stranger to Congressional Investigations........How was that they put it...."In keeping with the highest traditions"!
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TSgt Joe C.
TSgt Joe C.
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Well stated SFC Mark Merino!
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LTC Stephen F.
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Political correctness may well be on its way to Parris Island SFC (Join to see). The death of 20-year old muslim trainee Raheel Siddiqui after falling nearly 40 feet to his death from a barracks stairwell within a few days of arriving at Parris Island seems more like 1st or 2nd degree murder than some form of hazing.
No surprise that Rep. Debbie Dingell D-Michigan has been pressing the Marine Corps for months about what role hazing may have played in Siddiqui’s death.
Hazing in training is one thing. However falling asleep on guard duty in a combat zone is a much more serious offense.
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SFC George Smith
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Most interesting... Some form of Hazing has Been around for Centuries...
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