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SSG Environmental Specialist
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It is a shame but both sides do it constantly. Once one group replaces the other in majority they start in on redistricting.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
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That is why the SC should act.
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MAJ James Woods
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Well we always known gerrymandering was something both parties have done. The whole concept just needs to be outlawed period.
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PFC Jim Wheeler
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MAJ James Woods Yeah, the case was over race-based gerrymandering, but the SC ruled that the district didn't need to be redrawn because it wasn't racially biased and was instead drawn with the "constitutional political objective of creating a safe Democratic seat."

Have there been other cases in front of the SC where they deviated from that position, MAJ? I honestly don't know. I had thought this case had set the precedent with its decision.
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PFC Jim Wheeler
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I guess my main question is how is the "constitutional political objective of creating a safe Democratic seat" is supposed to read if not in a partisan way.
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MAJ James Woods
MAJ James Woods
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PFC Jim Wheeler - I just told you, the recent Pennsylvania case where the SC chose not to accept the case resulting in the ruling by the State courts to be upheld that forced the districts to be redrawn as a result of politically motivated gerrymandering.
And now the SC will hear and rule on a WI case on the same subject; politically motivated gerrymandering that isn't race based. So we will have a precedent set this year that will impact future attempts to redraw boundaries. Hopefully no more districts that look like psychoanalyzing ink blots.
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MAJ James Woods
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PFC Jim Wheeler - You do understand the tools being used by GOP and Dems today to create partisan districts isn't based on race. That is the argument that is being made where districts are being drawn to look diverse yet ensures majority of districts favor one party even if the overall population leans the other way. I.E. taking a former democrat district, split it in half and merge into other conservative districts to dilute democrat votes. They are using other criteria to identify people. Easley vs Cromartie only ensured parties can't squeeze as many minorities that tend to vote one way into districts and as many Caucasians that tend to vote one way into districts. The case focused a limited scope of partisan gerrymandering. The new cases are broadening the scope.
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PFC Jim Wheeler
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Yeah, gerrymandering is a much larger issue than many believe. Unfortunately, by the time all of these cases are settled and districts are redrawn the legislatures will be drawing new districts based on the new census data.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
1stSgt Nelson Kerr
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The SC can stop that cycle
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PFC Jim Wheeler
PFC Jim Wheeler
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
1stSgt Nelson Kerr
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normally I would agree but the hot potato is already in thier lap and now they must deal with it.
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The only way they can stop "that cycle" is to start another one ... modifying the Constitution through judicial fiat. Not going to happen. They'll deal individual cases but won't rewrite the Constitution.
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