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LTC Stephen F.
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Thanks for reminding us SP5 Mark Kuzinski that on October 13, 1966 Secretary of the Defense Department Robert S. McNamara declared at a news conference in Saigon that he found that military operations have “progressed very satisfactorily since 1965.”
Not surprisingly he confided "to President Lyndon Johnson in private that he thought progress was “very slow indeed” in the pacification program."
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Maj Marty Hogan
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Interesting. He had been there 8 times by 65...knew it was a cluster. Reported going good. Speaks volumes about the entire war. Good read and good morning brother.
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SP5 Mark Kuzinski
SP5 Mark Kuzinski
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Good morning Marty - have a great weekend.
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LTC Wayne Brandon
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This is a great post, Mark!
As time has moved on with more and more of the details of this political fiasco surrounding a war that was never declared finding the light of day, we find that Johnson had his mind made up in '64 that the war would progress due to pressure from lobbyists for the businesses involved in supporting our efforts there, who would refuse to support him in the general election against Goldwater if he backed out of Viet Nam.
Giving credit to SPC Ron Creech in his statement regarding 'business influence'; there most certainly was and a great deal of eyewash that followed as the conflict escalated.
Then, Governor of Michigan, George Romney was one to point that out in a 1967 interview with Lou Gordon as he prepared for his presidential campaign for the '68 election. Saying of his 1965 visit to Viet Nam "When I came back from Viet Nam [in November 1965], I'd just had the greatest brainwashing that anybody can get." He then shifted to opposing the war: "I no longer believe that it was necessary for us to get involved in South Vietnam to stop Communist aggression in Southeast Asia," he declared. Decrying the "tragic" conflict, he urged "a sound peace in South Vietnam at an early time." Thus Romney disavowed the war and reversed himself from his earlier stated belief that the war was "morally right and necessary."
This statement caused him great trouble with the press who vilified him for the remark when he was only 11 pp behind Nixon in the polls at the time. Their efforts led to a 26 pp spread between Nixon and Romney which was the desired effect. The press wanted Nixon because they thought he was 'beatable' which would have assured a Democrat victory. The point of this is that Romney saw through the attempt to have him believe that all was well in 'Mudville' when it was anything but.
Romney saw it, the soldiers knew it and had Romney been elected in '68 there would have been little to no chance of our involvement continuing for another 6 years as it did although communism would have prevailed in the region which it did anyway.
The brunt of our failure to secure victory in Viet Nam falls squarely on the shoulders of Johnson, the press, the SDS and to a lesser degree, McNamara who should have resigned rather than carry out this charade.
In an interview conducted by David Frost (If remembering correctly, I do not clearly recall) NVA General Giap agreed with the interviewer that the bombing of North Viet Nam in 1972 was devastating to his country and had it continued for another two weeks, they would have had to sue for peace for they would not have had the means to continue to wage war but absent that, they were prepared to fight another 100 years if necessary. He also opined that they watched and read about our political wrangling, read what he called "news reports filled with erroneous information about the war" and the violence of the anti-war protests convincing the government of NV that just by protracting the war, they would prevail and we would defeat ourselves.
Instead, Nixon caved to political and social pressure to stop the bombing which emboldened our enemy yet again and the war continued. (Note: Snopes would have you believe Giap's statement if false. Had I not been watching the interview with my wife I might doubt it myself.)

Our troopers did a magnificent job while our politicians failed most miserably and the blood of every casualty in that experience falls on them and those who sought to undermine our efforts there.

For more on this subject, go to americong.com/the-true-story-of-christmas-bombing-n-vietnam-1972

Again Mark, thanks for this Saturday morning review of American military history.
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SP5 Mark Kuzinski
SP5 Mark Kuzinski
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LTC Wayne Brandon - great coimments - have a great weekend and my best to you and your wife - Go Green!
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LTC Wayne Brandon
LTC Wayne Brandon
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PO3 Bob McCord - Thanks for the feedback and thank you for the extra year (+) in Nam. Thanks to you and so many others who served there, the people of RSVN enjoyed a taste of freedom from communism 15 years longer than they might otherwise have had.
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LTC Wayne Brandon
LTC Wayne Brandon
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SP5 Mark Kuzinski - Thanks, Mark! I enjoyed the early morning mental gymnastics in my effort to accurately recall the things that once were bright lights that are now beginning to fade. Someone once said: "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it" and we must keep the errors of our past illuminated and pass that lamp on to future generations for the sake of our freedom and reputation as a liberator of the oppressed.
I'll pass your message along to Terry and I will be listening to the game tonight.
The Spartans seem to do pretty well under the lights!
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LTC Wayne Brandon
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You are correct, Bob. For those who walked and worked there, interacting with the people, it was about the people and about providing the cloak of freedom that only comes from having oppression permanently removed. It was people like you who understood that and worked diligently to make a difference. Regrettably, in time all of your good works will be forgotten as new generations replace the old as is evidenced in S. Korea.
The youth there want us gone and carry out frequent demonstrations to that end.
Never realizing that but for us and UN forces (but predominately the U.S.) they would be living as the people of N. Korea live and have no opportunity to rage against government or the injustices.
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