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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
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SPC Nathaniel O. thanks for the link, its going to be one for the ages, I am just as confused as the Candidates are running for the POTUS. Nice read with great points of interest.
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SPC Nathaniel O.
SPC Nathaniel O.
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No problem SFC, my old CSM shared it with me and i thought it was to great to not share and make more public. A lot of servicemembers i speak to forgot our true duty and why we signed up.
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CPO Electronics Technician
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Sad how politics play into the military... In a perfect world there is no room for politics in the military. I see the same crap in the police dept. and again, no room for politics there either. I've watched people promoted who didn't deserve it, moved to specialized units, given special details all cause of good old fashioned ass kissing. Not me. I rather go without! I know on top they have to remain politically agile which is wrong!
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1SG James A. "Bud" Parker
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Those Flag Grade Officers who frequent Washington, DC and reporters unending questions can not speak their mind. However, many retired officers, like Paul Lallely and others tend to say the obvious. Many of them were forced into retirement by the current Administration.
The confusion regarding the Candidates running for POTUS has more to do with citizens being able to read the US Constitution but not comprehending portions of it. Specifically Article Two regarding the requirements to hold Office as President.
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SPC Nathaniel O.
SPC Nathaniel O.
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You make an incredibly valid point 1sg.
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1SG James A. "Bud" Parker
1SG James A. "Bud" Parker
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According to the Founders of the Nation a natural born citizen is someone born within the country to citizen parents. In 1786 we had just kicked the British out of the USA and no longer wanted their form of government. We became a Republic, based upon "Natural Law" rather than laws created by men. The natural born clause was placed in the Constitution to prevent the British, or any other foreigners, from weaseling their way into the White House. The Original intent of natural born was to prevent any person from being President that had any family ties to any foreign nation. They did not want a Commander-in-Chief with any association to any country other that the USA.

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

That statement is written to cover two distinct classes of citizens. The original citizens, none of whom could possible be born to citizen parents because they were the 1st citizens of the nation! Also, they addressed future generations of US citizens. I'll use parentheses to show the text that they used to Grandfather themselves in.

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, (or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,) shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, (and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.")

Notice that among the Original Citizens who may hold Office as POTUS they had to have been a citizen of the United States when the Constitution was adopted. Also, they had to be a resident of the United States for at least 14 years. The remainder was to prevent foreigners influence in the Office of POTUS in future years.

So, what did the Founders believe had to be be met in order to qualify as a natural born, or True Citizen? They established this nation based upon Natural Law, not laws of men, which change continually. They extensively used the text of a book written by a Frenchman named Vattel. The "Law of Nations." To summarize what would require many more paragraphs to explain in depth it means that to be President you must be born within one of the Individual States (no territories, no foreign nations) and born to US citizen parents.

Why would they even bother to insert this requirement in the Constitution if, basically, anyone with any class of citizenship could hold that powerful Office? You mentioned anyone who complied with Statutory Requirements. That means they complied with Man's Laws to be a citizen, not God's "Natural Law." Laws of Nature. When SCOTUS has mentioned natural-born they invariably mention Vattel's Law of Nations as the source.
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