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SGT Utilities Equipment Repairer
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Be careful, not all Career counselors are up to date with this information, I already have a Top Secret, a 120 GT score and a 115 ST, I have been an NCO since February, I am a 91C, which is one of the most meaningless, dead end MOS out there, so I'm desperately trying to reclass into something more rewarding, to make a long story short, my career counselor turn me back right away saying that they were not looking for NCO without ALC, which I argued that the MILPER message says nothing about this, It does say about SSD but not about ALC, so I just took it upon myself to contact the school house, where they were extremely helpful and gave me great motivation to apply, because I am fully eligible, so don't just take the info someone gives you. do your research.
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SGT Utilities Equipment Repairer
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I'll keep that in mind SGM, and thank you, I just feel frustrated because so far in my 5 year military career, I never had anyone like a squad leader or a platoon sergeant tell me the importance of things or the guidance I could have used, everything I have accomplished I can honestly say I have taken upon myself to do, e.i. retaking the ASVAB cause it was really low, or enrolling in college and actually finishing a degree, or applying for a clearance to open more opportunities. So my troops sometimes get overwhelmed just because I want them to not do the same but maybe even better, and take all the opportunities and challenges the Army sometimes offer us, I wish I had an NCO push me or put my name for a Military school. So not saying anything bad about the Army cause I love it, but I think I could have easily had given up. I think that is one of the reasons I always find the need to research a little bit further than a simple verbal answer, of course never overstepping or disrespecting any superiors.
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SSG Engagement Control Team Leader
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SGT (Join to see) He was probably getting the information for 25D confused with 17C. If the BN career counselor doesn't have the right information you can always contact the BDE or garrison career counselor and they will make sure everyone is on the same page.
Good job pushing your troops to do the things needed to advance their career. They might not appreciate it now, but they will in a few years.
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SSG Michael Hathaway
SSG Michael Hathaway
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I ran into a similar situation with this and 25D. Counselor said if I don't have certs of any kind, then I can't reclass. Coming from 68W to these new 17C or 25D is proving more difficult than I originally expected. I have a 140GT, Technology at 140 too. SGT (Join to see) Do you have info for school house contact? My connection here is limited thus not really able to get to a lot of sites.
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SSG Daniel Poulin (Retired)
SSG Daniel Poulin (Retired)
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Good Job SGT's. You might just be what we are looking for; go-getters. With the Army drawing down, I don't imagine too many units are eager to lose their people, and the challenge of getting here is all on you. But if you can, and if you do, the rewards are immense. The 25D and 17C courses are a bit um Fire-Hose style, so brush up on your Linux before you start; it will help greatly!
https://www.cybrary.it/course/comptia-linux-plus/
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SFC Stephen King
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I am intrigued.
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SGM Matthew Quick
SGM Matthew Quick
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See your Career Counselor ASAP...would imagine training will fill up quickly.
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SSG John Erny
SSG John Erny
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Damn, I work in the IT field, if I were 20 years younger I would be all over that MOS like white on rice.
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SGT Mark Rhodes
SGT Mark Rhodes
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Its about time
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SSG Derek Scheller
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I am currently slated for 25D reclass with a report date of 26 Aug, as I would like to not only be defensive in strategy but also offensive as I do hold a CEH, CCNA-Security, and am pursuing a CPT, as well as OSCP and OSCE, would it make more sense to go 17C? If so is it possible to switch?
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SSG Daniel Poulin (Retired)
SSG Daniel Poulin (Retired)
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170A does not start at CW3; you are miss informed. It starts at W01 We have E5s and E6s putting in their packets this month. You're probably thinking 255S; it still starts at CW3. FYI the people submitting their packets are Experienced Cyber Operators already.
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SSG Daniel Poulin (Retired)
SSG Daniel Poulin (Retired)
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SGT Derek, you talk the talk, so .... when you pass the 25D course, notify the cadre there of your current certs and experience, and they will contact us at the Cyber Protection Brigade, and if you are as good as you say, maybe the unit will change your orders. FYI brush up on your Linux before you get to the "D" course. Good Luck!
https://www.cybrary.it/course/comptia-linux-plus/
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SSG Derek Scheller
SSG Derek Scheller
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SSG Daniel Poulin (Retired) I play with Linux almost daily. I have also gone through quite a bit of python, though programming has never been my strong suit I think I just need to spend even more time on it. I have tried many different distros of linux all geared towards Security, started with BT and moved on to Kali. I now utilize BackBox, and am waiting for Kali 2.0 to be released on the 11th of August. I have also been trying to study assembly as if you know assembly then it makes fuzzers even easier to use if you know where the bugs are even before a fuzzer can find them.
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SSG Daniel Poulin (Retired)
SSG Daniel Poulin (Retired)
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good for you .. the python course is being removed from the 'D' program; it was deemed un necessary, and hardly ever used. Assembly will help with reverse engineering malware. I can fuzz just fine using 'gdb' and very little knowledge of assembly. Do keep up the assembly, it will help you in a year or two when you take the Forensics & REM courses. If you are up on Linux then move onto wireshark, tshark, tcpdump, nmap, and netcat; they do seem to come up often during the courses. If you are up on those already then make sure you can carve a TCP, UDP ,and IP packet, for the intrusion analysis courses. If you are good there too, then proceed with OWASPs top 10 (XSS, SQLi, etc) for the hacking instruction courses. Even today, after 3 years of continuous training, I am still reading new books to better hone my skills and learn new ones. The second you think you are ahead of this game, is when you fall behind. The courses are not forgiving, and have less then 50% pass rate, at present.

PS. dump BackBox and stick to Kali; there is no CON(DoD Cert of Networthiness) for BackBox; you will be using Kali (and PowerShell) for the foreseeable future.

Good Luck!
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