Never-before-seen photos of Palestinian mufti with Hitler ties visiting Nazi Germany

SGT Joseph Cabra - "The Arabs were Germany's natural friends because they had the same enemies... namely the English, the Jews, and the Communists". Huh, Atheism / Agnostic seems to be a major show stopper for the Persians - Iranians with the Soviets. Also for Al Queda (Which I thought was mostly Sunni Muslim). Soooo, kind of hard for me to believe they were "natural friends" back then for the Palestinian Muslims just because they had hatred of the Jews in common. Perhaps they had a political relationship, I would not say "friends" though, thats a stretch. I don't know where exactly you are on the timeline anymore, you jumped from the Hitler era to 1929 and now we are 1919? Your knowledge of Germany is lacking. Anti-Semitism faded during the boom years of the Wiemar Republic so your presumption it was consistent in intensity in Germany from 1919 through 1929 through 1939-1945 is not based on fact. Mohammed Amin al-Husseini was not an elected leader he was appointed so how does his actions reflect the beliefs of anyone but himself? Further he was considered an important British ally between 1921 - 1936 (probably a British Collaborator.....which went against the Arabs), the Arabs did not trust him and refused to put him in command of any military forces. Lots of his background contradicts the picture your trying to paint. Suggest you read up on your main character here.

SGT (Join to see) - I think he is correct in several respects that they were influenced via Nazi Propaganda (so were a lot in the United States), they adhered more to anti-semtism due to the fall of the Ottoman Empire because the Jews were no longer apt to settle for the second class citizenship of the Ottoman Empire and Jewish nationalism became more ingrained. Note the current reaction to the rise of the Iranians (Persians) among the Gulf States of late. The resentment was always there but as Iran developes and flaunts it's Nuclear developments.........the anti-Iranian sentiment starts to rise significantly. Again, appears the Iranians could be lived with as long as they stayed within their borders and their doctrine didn't start to infringe on Sunni Islam. Once they started to challenge Sunni Islam more brazenly and support nationalistic movements outside their borders against primarily Sunni-Muslim governments......the invective against them increased substantially as has the military threats. Noteably, anti-semetism has stared to fade in this newer environment to an extent it seems.

SGT Joseph Cabra - So two things are clear at this point. #1 this conversation is going nowhere and I am wasting my time here. #2 Your bouncing all over the place and is really difficult for me to determine what exactly your arguing. Recormmend you attempt to correct some of the broad brush painting you do in your past posts. Relying entirely on books and/or the internet and your personal interpretations, really not a complete learning experience, in my view.

SGT Joseph Cabra - The problem with this whole conversation is you have no clue as to the historical context of the photo OR the argument you attempt to make. You started by supporting the bullshit assertion by the OP that there was some kind of Nazi - Palestinian alliance. It's a photo with no supporting doco and that is really a stretch. The context of the time the photo was taken was not any of the dates you have mentioned, it was 1943. During that moment in time the Germans were attempting to foment revolt against the British Mandate in Palestine to force additional deployment of troops or force the British to leave alltogether........seriously the Nazi's viewed the Arabs as second class or garbage as they did the Africans How you get beyond that belief structure to an alliance just blows my mind. It would have been more correct to imply that the Nazi's and Mufti shared a single goal against zionism at the time..........which was the Jewish Nationalist belief that they should establish a Jewish state in British Mandate. That was the whole reason why the Hananah (Jewish British Mandate military political movement) met at times with SS Leader Himler up until the late 1930's. So there were meetings on both sides. Nobody has alleged the Haganah formed an alliance with the Nazi's. Main reason is there are no pictures but that is OK as the Isrealis will honestly tell you these meetings took place up until the late 1930's. So all of the sudden we are taking about some massacre in 1929 which was more an incited riot then massacre with the theme of that riot repeated several times through history. One side or the other asserts publicly the Jews or the Palestinian Muslims are attempting to seek control of Dome of the Rock or some such nonsense and instant angry crowd and riot takes place. The Mufti you refer to repeatedly as proof there was a Nazi-Palestinan alliance............then you modified later to say only he was anti-Jewish (though I believe it more correct to say anti-Zionist). So the guy was appointed by the British to be Mufti...........not the Palestianians. So to say or imply he was the ruler of the Palestianians based on his British appointment is another stretch. Apparently your also ignorant of the Arab independence movements going on at the time because this Mufti in particular tried to angle his way into supporting or leading one of those factions and the Arabs told him NO. I really think he could care less if that was his function or not...........do all the Imams in Iraq steer clear of militia influence or leadership? No they do not, despite what you may think. So now we are suddenly back in 1919 and I have to tell you the world has changed dramatically between 1919, 1929 and 1943.......so I have no clue why your attempting to connect those dots. You say it is to prove he is anti-jewish over time (which again should be anti-zionist). So if you said anti-zionist I might have agreed with you since Jewish Nationalism started it's rise at the fall of the Ottoman Empire.......thats not what you said though you stated anti-Jewish. Which implies he is against the Jewish religion in all it's forms even though the Ottoman Empire tolerated it with conditions. So zoom forward to today, really thats all you need to do here. Go find a Palestinian and have a discussion with them. Ask them why they hate the Isrealis' You will be very hard to find one that says they think they are blasphemers, they hate the Torah, etc. No they will still respect the religion. Where they head South is on the political decisions that have been made since 1948, some of the military campaigns, etc. I don't know if you ask me that sounds like political disagreements. However when you run into someone that says Judaism = Zionism then you have a religious argument. Can you find a statement from the Mufti where he said all Jews are Zionists? The are not and I think it would have been apparent in the 1920 they were not. So show me a purely anti-Jewish statement the Mufti is quoted as saying. Nazis disrespected the religion, hated Zionism and were 100% against the Jewish religion. Though I would go farther and state the Nazi's via their idealogy were against ANY RELIGION that did not support Nazism.....and none of the at the time did.....sooo Not a stretch to say they were either Atheist or Agnostic towards religious people.

it is partly propaganda because it is never mentioned in the article that members of the Haganah were also meeting with Senior Nazi's at the time. No photos of them but you can probably find via Google. Haganah meetings I believe were halted in 1939 or 1940 once it became clear the Nazis would no longer allow Jews to emigrate outside of Germany. The Haganah and the Mufti both were engaged in a kind of competition one side was trying to booste Jews in Palestine, the other side was attempting to cap Jews in Palestine. Both knew what was comming in a few years when the British Mandate ended.