Posted on Dec 26, 2017
New in 2018: Could these two new fitness tests spell the end of the APFT?
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I'm sorry, but whenever I read something like "overarching Holistic Health and Fitness program " my BS alarm goes off. In other words, this doesn't really do what we need it to but other things do, and I need some bullets for my OER support form. Guess we don't have enough going on to keep us busy so the staff guys/gals spend time on new uniforms and APFT's. How about working on doing what we have better as opposed to making up new stuff? This reminds me of a brand new training initiative that came down from higher years ago. In PPT of course. The CoS told me I needed to brief our CG on the new plan and impacts. After looking through the slides it took 2 minutes to tell the CG nothing is changing, we're just calling what we have always done by different names. As to the APFT, it is easy to train for and test. As much as staffers love to make up new things and prepare really pretty PPTs, supported by google research, they really need to remember the KISS principle. Hey - maybe they can score eval points by simplifying things as opposed to complicating them. But of course their leaders set the tone in that regard.
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A1C (Join to see)
Sir, I respectfully disagree. A three event course, which is the most basic and almost inapplicable to ANY combat situation, I feel, isn't a good way to test combat fitness. I highly doubt anybody here will explain how being able to do 70 pushups in 2 minutes helped them on the battlefield, but I'm positive training to drag a 240lb dummy 15 feet is something many combat operations soldiers will find useful.
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COL Brian Shea
Thank you for your reply. I do respect your opinion. But IMHO the APFT should be a test of physical readiness for all Soldiers, from Basic Trainee to the top of the chain, regardless of MOS. It should provide an overall test of physical conditioning. While that relates to combat readiness, it is not "The" test of same. Personally I would (and do) place more emphasis on marksmanship. There is nothing stopping "combat" (?) Soldiers from enhancing their physical training requirements. Many years ago I was assigned to a unit that had to meet SOF standards. This meant scoring a minimum of 70 (instead of 60) on each of the APFT events, plus a ruck march and swim test. And of course there are certain courses/units that extend the bar for physical training, i.e., Airborne and Ranger. But I see no reason to change the standard APFT. I guess the difference is that to my way of thinking the APFT tests Physical Readiness, not Combat Readiness. I've known folks that could max the APFT that I wouldn't leave a FOB with. I go back far enough to remember a 5 event APFT and didn't really see how the horizontal ladder or inverted crawl had much relation to "combat" readiness, though they did test strength and agility.
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When I was on active duty 20+ years ago I said the 3 event APFT had little to do with a soldiers' physical ability to accomplish the tasks of their MOS. While this new test may be a better indicator of a soldiers' "combat fitness", if you will, it still does not fit the bill for many (most?) MOS's.
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My guess is that equipment costs will be the determining factor between the ACRT and SRT. It looks like the ACRT requires 420# of weights (including a trap bar), medicine balls, kettlebells, sleds, and pull-up bars. The SRT requires a sled with at least 240# of weights, sandbags, and a 225# tire. The SRT looks like it will be the less expensive option. I'm just a butter bar though so take my opinion isn't worth a grain of salt.
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