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The thing that gets me is they go for paying the military less but want to pay burger flippers more how dose that work?
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SFC Rocky Gannon
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SSG Trewhella, the military same as civil service is the easy target along with retiree benefits. There have been reports that what they are saying is not true, about how much the cost have went up. They want to lump several things together, like building cost and price of the commissaries to personnel cost and it shows a distorted picture!!
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Sfc Gannon, I agree with you.
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To Rocky, the article criticizes military personnel for "costing twice as much" as we did in 2001, and will "cost twice as much again" in 2025, however that comment disingenuously ignores several critical facts.

1.  The 2010 QRMC redefined by adding the following verbiage:  " "out of pocket healthcare costs that civilian workers typically face, but that military personnel avoid; state and FICA tax advantages based on the non taxability of allowances; and the ESTIMATED VALUE OF FUTURE MILITARY RETIREMENT BENEFITS (adjusted to reflect the likelihood that a member will become eligible for retirement.)"  Consider for a moment that no one gave military personnel a dime more than we were entitled to in 2001, but by merely "redefining" our benefits we show to cost far more.

2.  in 2001 a 10 year plan to reduce the 17% pay gap between civilian and military compensation.  10 years later, we're *almost* where we should be.

3.  People getting maimed or killed in combat *costs allot of money*.  Sounds pretty inhuman to even have to word the tragedy that's befallen our countrymen, but all those prosthetic limbs, PTSD treatments, and death benefits add up.  Are we seriously going to be criticized for DYING too expensively?  Or perhaps just surviving to expensively...

All in all, the article compliments a desire for officials to take the easy way out of our fiscally constrained reality. Military personnel and our benefits are the path of least resistance.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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I'll accept reductions to military benefits for serving and retired SMs when Congress cuts THEIR OWN benefits for serving and retired congress members.

Last time I checked, Hell was still feeling pretty damn warm and there are no anticipated or forecasted temperature drops on the docket for the next millennia or so.
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SSG Aircraft Mechanic
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NYT is a rag. I'd rather read Star or The National Enquierer.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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yeah, where the REAL news ain't
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SFC Robin Gates
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NYT is a waste of ink and since they are leftist for environment, they could save a lot of trees!!!
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