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"[T]he public record and his behavior are now abundantly clear. Donald Trump treats black people and Latinos differently than he treats white people. And that makes him a racist."
You can't say it any better than that.
You can't say it any better than that.
Opinion | Just Say It: Trump Is a Racist
Posted from nytimes.com
Racism
Office of the President (POTUS)
Donald Trump
Posted >1 y ago
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Bunch of BS. If he were racists then why would he have signed a measure this past Monday creating a new national historic park for Martin Luther King Jr.? Why is it ok when Obama called Libya a “sh** show”. But Trump called Haiti a "sh** hole" he becomes a racists? Why are service members not labeled as racists when we say oh, we were deployed to a "Sh** hole"? Hypocrites at their finest!
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Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay
How bizarre! Maybe we are all caught in our own "echo chamber". I vaguely recall Obama saying something like "sh** show". Perhaps my belief in nonviolence is childish, but isn't the use of violence childish as well. If Trump's mental health is in question, if I am Mentally deficient would I know it? If my cultural values are reprehensible who has the right or moral high-ground to judge me?
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MSgt (Join to see)
SSG Jessica Bautista - 1. Trump has the right his opinion. Just like Obama did when he criticized the police before he had all the facts.
2. Trump did admit that Obama was born in the US.
3. "He disparages people of color..." Really, if so then why did he sign a measure this past Monday creating a new national historic park for Martin Luther King Jr. Why has he tried at least twice in the past to meet with the Congressional Black Caucus and they refused. Oh and lets not forget (from the Chicago Tribune) "The black unemployment rate has fallen by a full percentage point in the last year, black labor force participation is up and the number of black Americans with a job has risen by 600,000 from last year. Preliminary data show black wages and incomes are up since the election. The rate of job growth per month for blacks under Trump has so far been 40 percent higher than the monthly average under Obama. Trump has averaged nearly 30,000 new black jobs per month. That's especially remarkable because Obama was elected when employment was way down.
4. Just because White Supremacy groups support Trump does not mean he supports them. The Black Panther Party supported Obama. So does that mean Obama supports Black Supremacy groups. I think not.
2. Trump did admit that Obama was born in the US.
3. "He disparages people of color..." Really, if so then why did he sign a measure this past Monday creating a new national historic park for Martin Luther King Jr. Why has he tried at least twice in the past to meet with the Congressional Black Caucus and they refused. Oh and lets not forget (from the Chicago Tribune) "The black unemployment rate has fallen by a full percentage point in the last year, black labor force participation is up and the number of black Americans with a job has risen by 600,000 from last year. Preliminary data show black wages and incomes are up since the election. The rate of job growth per month for blacks under Trump has so far been 40 percent higher than the monthly average under Obama. Trump has averaged nearly 30,000 new black jobs per month. That's especially remarkable because Obama was elected when employment was way down.
4. Just because White Supremacy groups support Trump does not mean he supports them. The Black Panther Party supported Obama. So does that mean Obama supports Black Supremacy groups. I think not.
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CPO Nate S.
MSgt (Join to see) - Msgt, here is something interesting:
“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.” ― Booker T. Washington
Ref: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/542300-there-is-another-class-of-coloured-people-who-make-a and https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Booker_T.s that_Washington]
It is interesting, this quote, that a great African-American like Booker T. Washington recognized that slavery is not the per view of one race / group's control over another. It also includes those who stand to lose control even within their own group who can - enslave.
LTC Martin, you ask an interesting question. Most bigots that have revealed themselves don't give advantage to those they are trying to control. Why would anyone who practices racism go against their behavioral code? Given MSgt's facts, verified from BLS and other sources, it seems odd that people would think that strengthening the African-American family, and in deed all families, with real employment/career opportunities is somehow a bad thing. It is curious!?!?!
In closing, MSgt, Item (4) is very true. There will always be those groups that attempt to lend legitimacy to themselves by hitching their wagon to someone or some cause they think will help them. It has been the case for 100's if not 1,000's of years that history is, shall we say replete, with examples of this. Perhaps that is why President Jefferson, a flawed man to be sure, recorded these words:
"I know no safe depositary of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power." --Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820. ME 15:278
Ref: https://famguardian.org/Subjects/Politics/ThomasJefferson/jeff1350.htm
It is interesting that in many ways a slave holder and a former slave share at their cores the need to be both educated (aka well-informed) themselves and to educate in order to determine for themselves and to help others judge openly and fairly the courses, when properly and fairy (aka equally) educated, that they can take, when so educated and well informed to insure their freedom and not assure their slavery, either imposed by others or worse self-imposed.
“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.” ― Booker T. Washington
Ref: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/542300-there-is-another-class-of-coloured-people-who-make-a and https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Booker_T.s that_Washington]
It is interesting, this quote, that a great African-American like Booker T. Washington recognized that slavery is not the per view of one race / group's control over another. It also includes those who stand to lose control even within their own group who can - enslave.
LTC Martin, you ask an interesting question. Most bigots that have revealed themselves don't give advantage to those they are trying to control. Why would anyone who practices racism go against their behavioral code? Given MSgt's facts, verified from BLS and other sources, it seems odd that people would think that strengthening the African-American family, and in deed all families, with real employment/career opportunities is somehow a bad thing. It is curious!?!?!
In closing, MSgt, Item (4) is very true. There will always be those groups that attempt to lend legitimacy to themselves by hitching their wagon to someone or some cause they think will help them. It has been the case for 100's if not 1,000's of years that history is, shall we say replete, with examples of this. Perhaps that is why President Jefferson, a flawed man to be sure, recorded these words:
"I know no safe depositary of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power." --Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820. ME 15:278
Ref: https://famguardian.org/Subjects/Politics/ThomasJefferson/jeff1350.htm
It is interesting that in many ways a slave holder and a former slave share at their cores the need to be both educated (aka well-informed) themselves and to educate in order to determine for themselves and to help others judge openly and fairly the courses, when properly and fairy (aka equally) educated, that they can take, when so educated and well informed to insure their freedom and not assure their slavery, either imposed by others or worse self-imposed.
A quote by Booker T. Washington
There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public....
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How do you explain the unemployment rate then for this demographic? If one was racist toward a particular group wouldn't they want to bring harm upon them?
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Capt Gregory Prickett
LTC (Join to see) - who said I had no issue with Obama's orders on the DREAM act? His orders were unconstitutional, clearly, just as Trump's were.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Why Trump’s Immigration Rules Are Unconstitutional
Don’t pay attention to the administration's spin. The law is clear.
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CW5 Edward "Tate" Jones Jr.
Dreamers were created out of the ether by executive fiat. The Dreamer policy IS NOT LAW and it can be deleted by the same pen that created it. The latest judicial fiat by a liberal, never Trump judge, WILL NOT hold up under examination. It WILL be overturned upon appeal just like every immigration finding of the 9th Circus has been overturned by SCOTUS.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
CW5 Edward "Tate" Jones Jr. - First, the Obama EO on DREAMers has already been held unconstitutional, by a US District Court in Texas; and his EO on DACA was held unconstitutional by the Fifth Circuit.
Second, SCOTUS has not overturned, reversed, vacated, or done anything with the Ninth Circuit's immigration decision aside from issuing a stay, and later dismissing the matter as moot.
BTW, only one of the cases was from the Ninth Circuit.
Second, SCOTUS has not overturned, reversed, vacated, or done anything with the Ninth Circuit's immigration decision aside from issuing a stay, and later dismissing the matter as moot.
BTW, only one of the cases was from the Ninth Circuit.
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Anything Trump says or does seems to instantly polarize many on the left and right. It is a little akin to the Rorschach test (in blot test). Those that hate Trump see racist, Nazi, homophobe, sexist in every ink blot image. Those that support him do not. Perhaps if we measured his performance based upon results instead of rhetoric we might get somewhere. He is not and will not be a word measuring Caspar milquetoast politician taking a wind test or poll for every word he utters. That is simply not who he is or ever will be.
We are watching significant improvements in our economy, opportunities for all, increasing wages, lower taxes a stock market that is booming There are many that will not allow that to happen as they have become convinced he is evil incarnate. about 150 companies have announced pay increases and bonuses to employees as a part of the tax cut benefit. Unemployment among blacks is at a many decade low now too, Consumer and small business confidence are at all time highs.
Those of us in the markets have had one of the best years in a long time and it continues in 2018. If you have a pension it is being strengthened with improving markets as well.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the media is screaming racist.
We are watching significant improvements in our economy, opportunities for all, increasing wages, lower taxes a stock market that is booming There are many that will not allow that to happen as they have become convinced he is evil incarnate. about 150 companies have announced pay increases and bonuses to employees as a part of the tax cut benefit. Unemployment among blacks is at a many decade low now too, Consumer and small business confidence are at all time highs.
Those of us in the markets have had one of the best years in a long time and it continues in 2018. If you have a pension it is being strengthened with improving markets as well.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the media is screaming racist.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Cpl Jeff N. - Trump was first recognized in the civil rights field when the feds went after him for refusing to rent to minorities. It hasn't changed much since.
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Capt Jeff S.
Susan Foster - Did we start losing our humanity when we allowed a race-baiter into the White House that divided the people of America instead of uniting them? The only political capital that Progressives have is the offense they take to everything that doesn't meet their double-sided standards of political correctness.
If we judge the man by the results he produces, I'd say Obama was clearly the racist and Trump has done more in one year to benefit the black community than Obama did in eight! Black unemployment is the lowest its been in almost two decades. And the jobs that Trump is bringing back aren't in 7-11, McDonald's, or Wal-Mart. They are manufacturing jobs and jobs that require skilled labor. His tough stance on immigration likewise benefits the black community because immigrants tend to take jobs traditionally held by blacks.
Truth is like Kryptonite to Liberals. They can't stand it; it makes them sick.
If we judge the man by the results he produces, I'd say Obama was clearly the racist and Trump has done more in one year to benefit the black community than Obama did in eight! Black unemployment is the lowest its been in almost two decades. And the jobs that Trump is bringing back aren't in 7-11, McDonald's, or Wal-Mart. They are manufacturing jobs and jobs that require skilled labor. His tough stance on immigration likewise benefits the black community because immigrants tend to take jobs traditionally held by blacks.
Truth is like Kryptonite to Liberals. They can't stand it; it makes them sick.
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Susan Foster
Capt Jeff S. - I don't know when we started losing it, but I do know that the racists may not be worse since he took over, but it has emboldened them. He campaigned to white America, and to many of them, it was a sweet message--anything but the black man. It was easy for people to believe he said what was alleged in the meeting, because it followed a pattern of things he had said during the campaign. Although right-wing radio would tell you otherwise, race relations did not worsen under Obama. They were far from desirable, but the fact is that has always been the case. But you have no evidence he was a race-baiter. I have no idea what your statement on progressives means, so I can't comment. But your statement on immigration helping blacks because they are the ones who hold unskilled jobs? Ridiculous and a stereotype all by itself. Also, and I say this respectfully, if you want to talk results you aren't very well informed about how much Trump has accomplished in one year. I am all for giving credit where it's due, but Obama pulled us out of the worst recession in many years, and we were riding on a high wave when he left office. Trump has benefitted from it, just like Obama had the opposite problem when he took over. We didn't even start operating under a Trump budget (which was Obama's with a few changes) until Oct 17. In fact, the actual job report was higher in Obama's last year than the same time in Trumps first year. Manufacturing is a little more complex than that. Despite that narrative of lost manufacturing jobs, what we do know is the industry's total real output, the value of all the goods it produces, has been hovering near an all-time high for three years. Trump campaigned heavily on bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States, particularly by renegotiating America's trade deals, such as NAFTA, the pact with Canada and Mexico. All three countries say NAFTA negotiations are not going well, despite some progress on peripheral issues. Regardless of trade policy, though, manufacturing has rebounded for a variety of reasons, both domestic and global. It has also benefitted from a weaker U.S. dollar, since the industry depends heavily on exports. Has he brought back all the jobs he's claimed? Nope (my reference is Fortune mag which is conservative, by the way). He has taken credit for a whole bunch of jobs he had nothing to do with--plans were already in the works or there's no details, just claims. There is little a president can do to create jobs but loosen some regulations that hamper business, and this he has done. This is not a "progressives" statement, just a moderate who can look at both sides and do a little reading. I am thrilled the economy is looking up, and I hope it stays that way. And I will give him credit for all that. Speaking of being a uniter, we need that more than ever, because we as a country are very fractured. We don't have one.
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