Posted on Jul 14, 2017
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Marines are getting serious about this.
At Kissoon’s June 5 Article 32 hearing, witnesses recalled that Parris Island commanders had a “holy crap” moment the morning after Siddiqui’s death. They realized that Felix was not supposed to be training recruits because he was still under investigation for a separate incident the year before, in which he was accused of ordering another Muslim recruit to sit in a commercial dryer and turning it on several times while taunting the recruit about his religion.
At Kissoon’s June 5 Article 32 hearing, witnesses recalled that Parris Island commanders had a “holy crap” moment the morning after Siddiqui’s death. They realized that Felix was not supposed to be training recruits because he was still under investigation for a separate incident the year before, in which he was accused of ordering another Muslim recruit to sit in a commercial dryer and turning it on several times while taunting the recruit about his religion.
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I think he will be fine. A BN Cdr does not re-assign personnel. If the Corps thought that the DI was a danger to Marines then they should have moved him out. I got it. They put him in a logistics position, away from Marines. And if shorthanded, a logical decision would be to put a trained individual back in the job. Especially if an earlier investigation is taking a year to complete. I don't see grave misconduct by the BC. Was it a poor decision? Possibly. Taken as a whole though one can logically why a decision was made as it was. Maybe the DI will be culpable but he did not act in the fatal event. If a guy can walk away from a car that is submerged under water with a girlfriend still in the car and one day he runs for President then I think the BC retires and the DI does time.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
LTC (Join to see) This is going to become a "the commander is responsible for the actions of those serving under said commander" The Navy has a tendency to fire the Captain of a ship if a major incident occurs even if the CO is not on the bridge or directly culpable. It torpedoes the career of that officer. That may end up being what happens to LTC Kissoon. It may also be that they make an example of him so that other and future BCs understand that they need to be careful. This whole series of events is tragic. It has already ended the life of one Marine, it has ended the career of another, and probably the career of another.
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SGM, thankfully I spent my time in Divisions on MTOE assignments. I do not have a perspective of the training Commander or his duties.
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Sgt Martin Querin
You have to be cautious in assigning "blame" in an organization that believes we are all corporately responsible for the actions of all. The "blame" for the incident whether a court martial finds him guilty, or innocent, is that of the individual that committed the act
The responsibility for him being in that position and being able to do what he did, resides with, and reflects on us all as Marines. His fellow DI's could have seen this coming, and as you go up the chain of command the responsibility is shared by all, all the way up to the Commandant. The question you have to ask is whether it is a singular incident, in which case, deal with the individual and move on. Or is it systemic, in which case you create policies, initiate programs and issue standing orders. Finding someone else to blame, other than the perpetrator, isn't fixing the problem; which should be the primary objective. Semper Fi
The responsibility for him being in that position and being able to do what he did, resides with, and reflects on us all as Marines. His fellow DI's could have seen this coming, and as you go up the chain of command the responsibility is shared by all, all the way up to the Commandant. The question you have to ask is whether it is a singular incident, in which case, deal with the individual and move on. Or is it systemic, in which case you create policies, initiate programs and issue standing orders. Finding someone else to blame, other than the perpetrator, isn't fixing the problem; which should be the primary objective. Semper Fi
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Sgt Wayne Wood
Exactly what i was going to say... Navy/Marine careers have been destroyed over MUCH LESS.
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Don't know about the Marines , but in the Army there would be a CSM and 1SG and maybe Company Commander in between the BC and personnel assignments that should be strung up. I don't recall any of the Co, BN or BDE Commanders I served with ever injecting themselves in manning. Maybe a Marine thing that the commanders do manning instead of the SGMs and 1SGs.
We tracked guys on suspension closely and they did not interact with trainees until the action they were suspended for was resolved regardless of the time period or how short handed a unit was. Folks were cross leveled from units that were in cycle break to reach manning levels required for high risk training events and CRM worksheets and mitigation were adjusted to account for the augmentees.
We tracked guys on suspension closely and they did not interact with trainees until the action they were suspended for was resolved regardless of the time period or how short handed a unit was. Folks were cross leveled from units that were in cycle break to reach manning levels required for high risk training events and CRM worksheets and mitigation were adjusted to account for the augmentees.
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few years in Leavenworth followed by a DD might teach Lt. Col. Kissoon what he should have learned before making O-1.
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