Posted on Nov 2, 2016
Pentagon chief draws fire over 'dangerous' plan to relax military recruiting standards
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I am glad that Defense Secretary Ash Carter has been receiving criticism for his proposal to relax the military's recruiting standards for fitness and body composition SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL.
This reminded me of the ridiculous idea that everybody performs well which was pushed in school because the powers that be didn't want to offend anybody.
Everybody is good at something but that does not mean that the military needs to relax standards because many young people tend to be more obese and lazy. There are many young people who are hard workers who take care of themselves. Those are the ones I hope will join the military.
That was one of the more dangerous proposals he has recommended. Hopefully it will never see the light of day.
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This reminded me of the ridiculous idea that everybody performs well which was pushed in school because the powers that be didn't want to offend anybody.
Everybody is good at something but that does not mean that the military needs to relax standards because many young people tend to be more obese and lazy. There are many young people who are hard workers who take care of themselves. Those are the ones I hope will join the military.
That was one of the more dangerous proposals he has recommended. Hopefully it will never see the light of day.
LTC Stephen C. Capt Seid Waddell CW5 (Join to see) CW5 Charlie Poulton SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT SFC William Farrell SSgt Robert Marx SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" SSgt (Join to see) TSgt Joe C. SGT (Join to see) SGT John " Mac " McConnell SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT Forrest Stewart SGT Robert Hawks SPC (Join to see) SrA Christopher Wright
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SSgt Robert Marx
Secretary Ash appears to want to implement too many changes into the military structure which ultimately would degrade readiness.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
When you can not get enough people that test put in CAT one what are you supposed to do? they will have to lower the mental or the physical standards and for many jobs the physical standards are far less important. needing to lower one of the other is a simple reality. Unless you can find a new source of ASVAB cat I recruits tht nobody else has found.
I was in an AFSC that could not fill NCO slots with people who could not score well enough normally to enter the job, The powers that be decided to lower the aptitude standards for NCOs cross-training in and that disaster took years to clean up. DoD required certification to be Shift Supervisor, NCOIC and facility superintendent so for many places the guy in charge of operations was a e-4 to 6 with E-7/8s working for him.
I was in an AFSC that could not fill NCO slots with people who could not score well enough normally to enter the job, The powers that be decided to lower the aptitude standards for NCOs cross-training in and that disaster took years to clean up. DoD required certification to be Shift Supervisor, NCOIC and facility superintendent so for many places the guy in charge of operations was a e-4 to 6 with E-7/8s working for him.
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CSM Charles Hayden
Your stated experience reflects a general dumbing down of America; greater higher level education %, artificial intelligence and wireless access to all knowledge and trivia notwithstanding. 1stSgt Nelson Kerr The fitness and obesity levels are in contrast to other countries with fewer personal freedoms to do as you please.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
CSM Charles Hayden - My experience has to do with the simple fact, that people bright enough to do certain jobs are always rare, they always have been rare.
We need more smart people, not necessary more educated people now than we used to becasue of changes in the battlefields and wars we fight on, but nature has kept producing smart people at the same i rate it always has,
If a need increases but the supply remains the same something has to give. A chubby cyber-warrior is just and a defective as a lean athletic one, but a dumb one is useless,
We need more smart people, not necessary more educated people now than we used to becasue of changes in the battlefields and wars we fight on, but nature has kept producing smart people at the same i rate it always has,
If a need increases but the supply remains the same something has to give. A chubby cyber-warrior is just and a defective as a lean athletic one, but a dumb one is useless,
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CSM Charles Hayden
1stSgt Nelson Kerr - I believe identification of the more intelligent people needs to more digigent and that many, many of our best and brightest never attain their potentials! One grandson enrolled in many "Advanced Placement" classes in high school. Bored-not challenged by the home work he didn't not turn it in and failed the class! During later testing for AP knowledge, he passed every test with flying colors.
Our education system has a problem!
Our education system has a problem!
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Diminishing standards and shrinking military capability in times of increasing world tensions and strengthening of opponents' military and strategic capabilities will surely lead to war sooner than later - and when war comes it will find this nation woefully unprepared.
Elections have consequences.
Elections have consequences.
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Capt Seid Waddell
1stSgt Nelson Kerr, electing people that rebuild our military and keep investing in research and development. Once we fall behind technologically there will be no catching up and the despots of the world will take over. The meanest scorpion in the bottle will rule.
Voting for more government goodies instead of national security will result in the loss of both.
Voting for more government goodies instead of national security will result in the loss of both.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
Capt Seid Waddell - The problem discussed in this thread is not enough smart people or people with specific needed shills, Moving government spending will not fix that at all. Investing in education might help some.
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