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CW4 Guy Butler
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I looked at the Bureau of Justice statistics he cited, covering the period 2002-2011, and found the following:

-Across the four PPCS data collections from 2002-11, blacks (3.5%) were more likely to experience nonfatal force during their most recent contact with police than whites (1.4%) and Hispanics (2.1%).
-A greater percentage of persons who experienced the use of force (44.1%) had two or more contacts with police than those who did not experience force (27.5%).
-Blacks (13.7%) were at least slightly more likely to experience nonfatal force than whites (6.9%) and Hispanics (5.9%) during street stops.
-Of those who experienced force during their most recent contact, approximately three-quarters described the verbal (71.4%) or physical (75.0%) force as excessive.
-Of those who experienced force during their most recent contact, 86.7% did not believe the police behaved properly.

The statistics for blacks are still double for whites and hispanics.
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LTC Special Operations Response Team (Sort)
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The powerful thing about statistics is that if they are pure numbers they can challenge presuppositions which are inconvenient to the personal reality that we want to believe in. Numbers are without passion or belief. They are never desperate to prove a specific perspective. Being so more emohasis should be placed on their pure application and use.
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MSG Laura Washington
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COL Charles Williams "walk a mile in my shoes". Cpl D L Parker Having raised a Black son, I agree with you. The mention of "cases where the shooting was justified, even if the person killed was unarmed" is most likely based on the court decision. I would like to know if the decisions where by a Judge or a Jury. Trial decision are not always correct and do get overturned. In my opinion, with smart phones and social media we will see more documentation of the authorities using excessive force and abuse of power when it comes to the treatment of minorities.
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COL Charles Williams
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MSG Laura Washington thank you. I appreciate your comments and perspective. I grew up in bad part of NJ, but I fully realize I did that in my shoes. I have been trying to make sense of this, as former police professional, and one with many friends and relatives who are in law enforcement back home on the local, state and federal levels. We need the rule of law, so what do we do these areas where many don't want these jobs? Where my sister works, the local residents are not interested in being part of solution... meaning becoming a cop and doing better... From a management level, how do we attract young people to these professions, when they believe they are evil? Having been many places with no rule of law, that is really not an option. Thank you again.
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MSG Laura Washington
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COL Charles Williams Sir, there is no easy answer. One person at a time, with encouragement, empowerment, and education. It will be along journey and not easy. When you look a a disenfranchised community where the youth by the time they are adults can't qualify for a law enforcement positions. They may not have a HS diploma or GED, and they may have a felony charge. If they do graduate, what was the quality of the education they receive? Did the education prepare them for college? They may not even be eligible to vote, so another challenge is how do they play an active role in their community on the local level. And, to my knowledge, jury duty is selected from the registered voting list, thus they don't even have an opportunity for a voice in prosecution process.
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