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Col Joseph Lenertz
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Their time scale from Victorian times to present may be too long...it might fail to capture the group-think socialist mantra of the left wing of the Dem party today. For example, in the definition of progressivism, including "...the changing role of individualism between the Victorian era and the Progressive era and its impacts on labor, consumption, and gender, among others. He describes the “four quintessential progressive battles: to change other people; to end class conflict; to control big business; and to segregate society,” the definition itself is at odds with today's progressive values. Individualism and responsibility for one's own success or failure is a tenet of conservative thought today, not progressives. In the transition from Victorian times to the 20th century, we've seen an increase in the value placed on individual thought and action, but that is not representative of progressivism in 2021. Today's progressive's would inform business owners "you didn't build that" and seek to shift all the world's responsibilities, moral and legal, away from the individual and toward an all-encompassing federal government.
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SSG Robert Webster
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Time scale? ROFLMAO!
Time scale is right.
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Col Joseph Lenertz
Col Joseph Lenertz
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SSG Robert Webster - Why not start at the time of the Greeks, say 1500 BC? (answer: Because it would be even LESS relevant to 21st century ideas/definition of progressivism). My point is that, had they chosen a more recent date to begin their analysis, say 50 years ago, the study would have pointed out the disconnects between present-day progressivism and the very tenets (i.e., individualism) of what this article is calling progressivism.
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SGT Edward Wilcox
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In that the information presented is nothing more than a list of books that seek to discuss certain topics, then nothing, I would guess. Your wiki page does nothing to actually define the word or the movement. Does not even give historical context to the term "Progressive Era', other than it seemed to coincide or follow the Victorian Era. Now, if you want to wait a couple of months, until I have actually read all of the publications listed, and then have a discussion on the Progressive Movement, we can make that happen. Or, you could actually provide some information, and then we can debate that.
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SGT Edward Wilcox
SGT Edward Wilcox
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SSG Robert Webster - You provided nothing but a list of books and a brief synopsis of each.
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG Robert Webster
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SGT Edward Wilcox - And you did not read the content of those supposed synopsis. Like I stated you need to take your blinders off and actually read and hopefully have the ability to comprehend what you supposedly read.
Interesting that Col Joseph Lenertz answered the question even though it was an oblique response. Maybe you should read his response to get a hint.
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SGT Edward Wilcox
SGT Edward Wilcox
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SSG Robert Webster - I read the synopsis. They are simply that, and brief description of the topic of the book, not a point of conversation. His response was oblique because he was responding to the synopsis. I choose not to do that. You want a conversation, provide a topic, not a synopsis.
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG Robert Webster
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SGT Edward Wilcox - I did and your ignorance and lack of comprehension is showing all too well.
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Wayne Soares
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Thanks for the share Robert
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