Posted on Sep 24, 2020
r/army - Massachusetts lawmakers who toured Fort Hood found a 'toxic culture of fear,...
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What would you expect a Democrat delegation to say? I would like to see where they come up with a culture of fear and intimidation it does not exist in other military installations. You see, damn near every one of us here is prior service. We've grown up. The new Soldier although an adult is still a child. For the most part. They don't like being told what to do. They know that if they don't do the job they can get an Article 15. So? Do your job. They know that if they don't do their job they're going to have their platoon Sergeant on their ass. If they consider that intimidation, so? Do your job. Independent thinking is left for officers. For senior enlisted NCO's. To read that soldiers allegedly feel fear and intimidation is actually quite laughable.
Fort Hood is no different than any other major military installation. Depending on whom they ask which they didn't tell us, such as dependents, we need to look at the crime rate. We need to look at the gang violence that occurs on post now. We need to look at the culture of soldiers returning from combat. I was there when soldiers returned from Vietnam and many of them were not in very good moods. Thanks need to be taken into perspective and the Democrats you're not offering perspective. They are only offering unsupported critique. Where's the official report?
But the real question I think is why are Democrats trying to tear down the fabric of our military? Just like Obama who using sequestration damn near shut down that were military in his attempt to make us equal to a third world country. He did not want us to be the United States - the almighty United States.
Fort Hood is no different than any other major military installation. Depending on whom they ask which they didn't tell us, such as dependents, we need to look at the crime rate. We need to look at the gang violence that occurs on post now. We need to look at the culture of soldiers returning from combat. I was there when soldiers returned from Vietnam and many of them were not in very good moods. Thanks need to be taken into perspective and the Democrats you're not offering perspective. They are only offering unsupported critique. Where's the official report?
But the real question I think is why are Democrats trying to tear down the fabric of our military? Just like Obama who using sequestration damn near shut down that were military in his attempt to make us equal to a third world country. He did not want us to be the United States - the almighty United States.
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SSG Robert Ricci
SSG Carlos Madden not as the Democrat only committee as stated. Those are rather harsh words. Come on brother. We were both in the military and we know there was a rank structure. Of course a slick sleeve private is going to fear and revere a staff sergeant. Didn't you ever watch Clint Eastwood? LOL. That's why the military takes them young. So that they can train them as they want them. So that they won't stop and do what we're doing right now and analyze the situation. It's above our pay grade. I don't like the fact that they're trying to put down Fort Hood when Fort Hood is no different than any other major military installation. You could be at a small hole on the wall installation as a slick sleeve private instill fear your sergeant. That's part of the gig.
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SSG Carlos Madden
SSG Robert Ricci - I think that's my biggest issue with this article - Hood probably isn't much different than the stuff happening on other installations. However it's undeniable that what is happening at Hood is worse due to the murders and disappearances.
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SSG Robert Ricci
SSG Carlos Madden Sorry but going to be a little bit lengthy here. I wish you had followed my previous comments on this because now I have to repeat it. I apologize.
Although there had been 28 deaths "associated" with Fort Hood, the vast majority had nothing to do with Fort Hood. As a military police investigator that has ultimately spent the vast majority of my life in civilian law enforcement, I have detailed the cause of death on each of the 28 deaths.
8 died as a result of a traffic collision. 5 died as a result of homicide on post. 6 soldiers died as a result of suicide. Three died as a result of illness. Five are currently undetermined.
Fort Hood statistics are not out of the norm. These statistics including the ones that follow are in line with Fort Stewart, Fort Bragg, Fort Gordon, and even Fort McClellan which is now just an Army Depot but has a high crime rate. Fort Hood is not an exception rather than the standard.
Fort Hood has 49,000 troops assigned to it plus dependents, plus civilian contractors and employees giving it a total of 200,000 person population. It is a medium to large city depending on where you come from. Try to compare it's 28 deaths to let's just say Amarillo. They are the same size but yet the statistics of Amarillo are much greater.
Had it not been for the horrific death of PFC Vanessa Guillen, this would likely not be an issue. Except for Fort McClellan Alabama, Fort Hood has the highest crime rate but only by 1% point. It's absolutely inline with the other posts of its size.
For example, two soldiers died in a fatal traffic collision in Austin, 60 miles away. One soldier drowned while water skiing on Lake Belton. Another Soldier drowned at Stillhouse Hollow Lake for unknown reasons. Another Soldier was murdered after leaving a strip club in Killeen. Three soldiers were murdered in an apartment off post where only one person was active duty military, one was previous Fort Hood military and the third is unknown.Two of them were a pastor and his wife.
A subject with stopped almost immediately after leaving the location along with another subject and a free air search by a canine disclosed ammunition which led to the seizure of a firearm. The individual was arrested but released on Bond and fled to Mississippi where he was later arrested by the US Marshal Service. So far, there is no stated connection to Fort Hood.
One soldier was murdered when trying to sell a used handgun to someone and an argument took place regarding the price of the gun. He was killed with his own gun and rolled into a ditch 300 feet away and his Jeep was set ablaze. No connection to Fort Hood. Two soldiers died as a result of combat actions overseas. So now we're going to put that on Fort Hood? That's not a fair statistic.
Pvt. Chee of the Navajo tribe died during a PT run. According to information disclosed he died of swelling of the brain as a result of an alcohol overdose. It was his birthday the day before. Was he severely intoxicated when he showed up for PT? That one I'll give you that perhaps his squad leader at a minimum should have noticed something. Let's be real here. How many of us tied one on real good the night before and showed up ready for PT the next morning? Rural! But to say that he died because of the excessive Heat at Fort Hood would be incorrect. At 7 a.m. the temperature was only 79 degrees. If properly hydrated he would have gotten through the run like every other Soldier did. Another Soldier died of apparent natural causes while in his BAQ.
The overarching issue is that the vast majority of the incidents that have occurred and have been associated with Fort Hood did not occur on post.
A culture of fear and intimidation are the cause of these deaths that are not as a rule related directly to Fort Hood? These are Democrats on a fishing trip.
Although there had been 28 deaths "associated" with Fort Hood, the vast majority had nothing to do with Fort Hood. As a military police investigator that has ultimately spent the vast majority of my life in civilian law enforcement, I have detailed the cause of death on each of the 28 deaths.
8 died as a result of a traffic collision. 5 died as a result of homicide on post. 6 soldiers died as a result of suicide. Three died as a result of illness. Five are currently undetermined.
Fort Hood statistics are not out of the norm. These statistics including the ones that follow are in line with Fort Stewart, Fort Bragg, Fort Gordon, and even Fort McClellan which is now just an Army Depot but has a high crime rate. Fort Hood is not an exception rather than the standard.
Fort Hood has 49,000 troops assigned to it plus dependents, plus civilian contractors and employees giving it a total of 200,000 person population. It is a medium to large city depending on where you come from. Try to compare it's 28 deaths to let's just say Amarillo. They are the same size but yet the statistics of Amarillo are much greater.
Had it not been for the horrific death of PFC Vanessa Guillen, this would likely not be an issue. Except for Fort McClellan Alabama, Fort Hood has the highest crime rate but only by 1% point. It's absolutely inline with the other posts of its size.
For example, two soldiers died in a fatal traffic collision in Austin, 60 miles away. One soldier drowned while water skiing on Lake Belton. Another Soldier drowned at Stillhouse Hollow Lake for unknown reasons. Another Soldier was murdered after leaving a strip club in Killeen. Three soldiers were murdered in an apartment off post where only one person was active duty military, one was previous Fort Hood military and the third is unknown.Two of them were a pastor and his wife.
A subject with stopped almost immediately after leaving the location along with another subject and a free air search by a canine disclosed ammunition which led to the seizure of a firearm. The individual was arrested but released on Bond and fled to Mississippi where he was later arrested by the US Marshal Service. So far, there is no stated connection to Fort Hood.
One soldier was murdered when trying to sell a used handgun to someone and an argument took place regarding the price of the gun. He was killed with his own gun and rolled into a ditch 300 feet away and his Jeep was set ablaze. No connection to Fort Hood. Two soldiers died as a result of combat actions overseas. So now we're going to put that on Fort Hood? That's not a fair statistic.
Pvt. Chee of the Navajo tribe died during a PT run. According to information disclosed he died of swelling of the brain as a result of an alcohol overdose. It was his birthday the day before. Was he severely intoxicated when he showed up for PT? That one I'll give you that perhaps his squad leader at a minimum should have noticed something. Let's be real here. How many of us tied one on real good the night before and showed up ready for PT the next morning? Rural! But to say that he died because of the excessive Heat at Fort Hood would be incorrect. At 7 a.m. the temperature was only 79 degrees. If properly hydrated he would have gotten through the run like every other Soldier did. Another Soldier died of apparent natural causes while in his BAQ.
The overarching issue is that the vast majority of the incidents that have occurred and have been associated with Fort Hood did not occur on post.
A culture of fear and intimidation are the cause of these deaths that are not as a rule related directly to Fort Hood? These are Democrats on a fishing trip.
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SSG Angela Koch
Upon arrival at my first duty station, I didn't have "fear"! I was nervous as anyone would be. I was escorted into Top's office and went directly to the position of attention as I was trained, and he said "at ease and relax". He even smiled and then told me to take a seat. In regards to Ft. Hood, where else are you going to find the number of military and civilians in one place? Ft. Hood is a mirror of the civilian population and with that comes the criminal and noncriminal soldiers. We have been at war for now over 10 yrs. and when the war kicked off the military as a whole had to drop standards and give exceptions in type of crimes (records) to fill in the most needed slots and they are still there in formation. Hell, we all know that "gang members" joined the military to gain very good tactical knowledge and other techniques that will be put to use once they are out.
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Fort Hood sure has changed since i was there after Vietnam in 1972 SSG Carlos Madden. While no excuse, we have been dealing with more than 19 years of war.
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