Posted on Apr 24, 2020
The data is in — stop the panic and end the total isolation
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There’s a task for that...
https://www.armystudyguide.com/content/powerpoint/CBRN_Presentations/conduct-unmasking-procedu-2.shtml
Looks like we’re going without the M256A1 kit.
https://www.armystudyguide.com/content/powerpoint/CBRN_Presentations/conduct-unmasking-procedu-2.shtml
Looks like we’re going without the M256A1 kit.
Conduct Unmasking Procedures (ArmyStudyGuide.com)
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SSG Robert Webster
And one more item - the M256A1 kit is for chemical agents and not biologicals. How in the world did you pass that test? Oops, you did not. You are a no go at this station.
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CW4 Guy Butler
SSG Robert Webster Huh. And here I thought it was a pretty good analogy for Georgia’s plan - opening up the state with pretty short phases, and no widespread testing. Ah, well.
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"Fact 1: The overwhelming majority of people do not have any significant risk of dying from COVID-19.
The recent Stanford University antibody study now estimates that the fatality rate if infected is likely 0.1 to 0.2 percent, a risk far lower than previous World Health Organization estimates that were 20 to 30 times higher and that motivated isolation policies.
In New York City, an epicenter of the pandemic with more than one-third of all U.S. deaths, the rate of death for people 18 to 45 years old is 0.01 percent, or 11 per 100,000 in the population. On the other hand, people aged 75 and over have a death rate 80 times that. For people under 18 years old, the rate of death is zero per 100,000.
Of all fatal cases in New York state, two-thirds were in patients over 70 years of age; more than 95 percent were over 50 years of age; and about 90 percent of all fatal cases had an underlying illness. Of 6,570 confirmed COVID-19 deaths fully investigated for underlying conditions to date, 6,520, or 99.2 percent, had an underlying illness. If you do not already have an underlying chronic condition, your chances of dying are small, regardless of age. And young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19." https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20062463v1.full.pdf
"Fact 4: People are dying because other medical care is not getting done due to hypothetical projections.
Critical health care for millions of Americans is being ignored and people are dying to accommodate “potential” COVID-19 patients and for fear of spreading the disease. Most states and many hospitals abruptly stopped “nonessential” procedures and surgery. That prevented diagnoses of life-threatening diseases, like cancer screening, biopsies of tumors now undiscovered and potentially deadly brain aneurysms. Treatments, including emergency care, for the most serious illnesses were also missed. Cancer patients deferred chemotherapy. An estimated 80 percent of brain surgery cases were skipped. Acute stroke and heart attack patients missed their only chances for treatment, some dying and many now facing permanent disability." https://www.ascassociation.org/asca/resourcecenter/latestnewsresourcecenter/covid-19/covid-19-state
The recent Stanford University antibody study now estimates that the fatality rate if infected is likely 0.1 to 0.2 percent, a risk far lower than previous World Health Organization estimates that were 20 to 30 times higher and that motivated isolation policies.
In New York City, an epicenter of the pandemic with more than one-third of all U.S. deaths, the rate of death for people 18 to 45 years old is 0.01 percent, or 11 per 100,000 in the population. On the other hand, people aged 75 and over have a death rate 80 times that. For people under 18 years old, the rate of death is zero per 100,000.
Of all fatal cases in New York state, two-thirds were in patients over 70 years of age; more than 95 percent were over 50 years of age; and about 90 percent of all fatal cases had an underlying illness. Of 6,570 confirmed COVID-19 deaths fully investigated for underlying conditions to date, 6,520, or 99.2 percent, had an underlying illness. If you do not already have an underlying chronic condition, your chances of dying are small, regardless of age. And young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19." https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20062463v1.full.pdf
"Fact 4: People are dying because other medical care is not getting done due to hypothetical projections.
Critical health care for millions of Americans is being ignored and people are dying to accommodate “potential” COVID-19 patients and for fear of spreading the disease. Most states and many hospitals abruptly stopped “nonessential” procedures and surgery. That prevented diagnoses of life-threatening diseases, like cancer screening, biopsies of tumors now undiscovered and potentially deadly brain aneurysms. Treatments, including emergency care, for the most serious illnesses were also missed. Cancer patients deferred chemotherapy. An estimated 80 percent of brain surgery cases were skipped. Acute stroke and heart attack patients missed their only chances for treatment, some dying and many now facing permanent disability." https://www.ascassociation.org/asca/resourcecenter/latestnewsresourcecenter/covid-19/covid-19-state
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SFC Herve Abrams
LTC Stephan Porter, isn’t that what all of the states did? Why are infections on the rise again? Why are ICUs full in South Texas? Why are deaths increasing again?
Your solution doesn’t work.
Your solution doesn’t work.
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SSG Robert Webster
SFC Herve Abrams - Actually at that point in time they were not seeing any other patients except for actual emergencies. And the ones that tried to use telemedicine for the most part couldn't get that right to begin with either.
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SFC Herve Abrams
SSG Robert Webster, okay, go ahead explain the “simple” logistics of isolating those at risk. Should we offer them free accommodations and meal services? After all, three people in my household will have to be isolated, along with millions of others. To where should they report? Will they stay in local hotels? Who should get the bill?
What about their jobs? Since they have to isolate themselves, who will do their jobs? My sister-in-law is the only one who knows how to do her job. Are you going to cover down for her? If so, how? What about my wife, she teaches first grade, can you handle that?
Will you also replace that lost income?
What about their jobs? Since they have to isolate themselves, who will do their jobs? My sister-in-law is the only one who knows how to do her job. Are you going to cover down for her? If so, how? What about my wife, she teaches first grade, can you handle that?
Will you also replace that lost income?
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