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Walt, it does my heart good to see an Obama supporting leftist such as yourself so upset that the bottom feeding leftists have betrayed you and are working actively to cover it up.
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Capt Walter Miller
Well, this author indicates that Obama will yet be tossing Madame Clinton under the bus. But he will make sure that Sen. Sanders is no longer a factor first.
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Capt Walter Miller
Cpl Jeff N. - I want to find it compelling that since Clinton so obviously and arrogantly and dangerously ignored national security with her private server that Obama will not want that on him as part of his legacy.
But the deep game he is playing is to toss Clinton after the convention so Sanders is frozen out of that process entirely.
It's plausible. And it would still allow for people to come out and vote for Democratic House and Senate candidates and break the hold of the GOP on our affairs.
This is important because the GOP has been attacking the country itself for decades. It clearly has been attacking the Military. Anyone can see that.
Walt
But the deep game he is playing is to toss Clinton after the convention so Sanders is frozen out of that process entirely.
It's plausible. And it would still allow for people to come out and vote for Democratic House and Senate candidates and break the hold of the GOP on our affairs.
This is important because the GOP has been attacking the country itself for decades. It clearly has been attacking the Military. Anyone can see that.
Walt
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A simple question:
Guilty of what?
I believe in our society a person is presumed innocent until proved guilty IN A COURT OF LAW!
Guilty of what?
I believe in our society a person is presumed innocent until proved guilty IN A COURT OF LAW!
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Capt Walter Miller
I would have been more correct to say that Clinton violated the Espionage Act.
She under the law needed to report Bumenthal's contact with sensitive information.
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
She under the law needed to report Bumenthal's contact with sensitive information.
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
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Capt Walter Miller
Blumenthal having information that he got from a CIA operative named Tyler Drumheller -- Clinton needed to report that under the statute.
This is not her only violation of USC 18 section 793(f).
Walt
This is not her only violation of USC 18 section 793(f).
Walt
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Capt Walter Miller
Clinton signed a statement that all her e-mails had been yielded to State Dept record keepers. Then this image turned up of Blumenthal's in box - hacked by Guccifer - showing one that was NOT turned in. This again, is a violation of USC 18 Section 2071
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The mainstream media is not silent. At all. I've been hearing nothing but the IG report getting regurgitated for days. This essay is just angry and conspiracy theorist. It's flatly wrong. No one is hearing about it? I haven't heard anything but this crap for days now. But I didn't hear a peep when Bushs entire administration did it on a FAR grander scale
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Capt Walter Miller
SSG (Join to see) - They could have said the same thing a year previously instead of last week.
I don't know why Sanders said in the first debate that no cared about her damned e-mails. Either he knew the fix was in - that it will still bring her down, or he was pretty clueless.
Walt
I don't know why Sanders said in the first debate that no cared about her damned e-mails. Either he knew the fix was in - that it will still bring her down, or he was pretty clueless.
Walt
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Capt Walter Miller
SSG (Join to see) - When Clinton admitted -in a news- conference- in mid 2015 that she on her initiative deleted, or had deleted by people with no clearance thousands of her e-mails - she violated USC 18 section 2071.
18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States."
Now you or I might have missed the import of her deleting her e-mails -- the Secretary of State for goodness sake' - but it wasn't totally missed. It just was not talked about.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/19/5-things-hillary-clinton-did-wrong-in-her-nevada-e-mail-press-conference/
18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States."
Now you or I might have missed the import of her deleting her e-mails -- the Secretary of State for goodness sake' - but it wasn't totally missed. It just was not talked about.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/19/5-things-hillary-clinton-did-wrong-in-her-nevada-e-mail-press-conference/
5 mistakes Hillary Clinton made in her latest e-mail press conference
That's five too many.
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SSG (Join to see)
Capt Walter Miller - Sir I'm not arguing about how she handled it. I have no ground there. But they really couldn't have mentioned it a year ago. In August of last year the State Department said that she did NOT violate any policies or procedures. The IG report didn't come out until extremely recently
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Capt Walter Miller
It was about in August of last year that SecState Kerry directed that an investigation be made.
She could have told the f*ucking truth too.
But that is not really germane. She said she destroyed documents and wiped the server.
That was a violation of USC 18 section 2071. When some of her e-mails were released, and the ones from Blumenthal -- it all should have been the biggest thing since Watergate.
Really.
Walt
She could have told the f*ucking truth too.
But that is not really germane. She said she destroyed documents and wiped the server.
That was a violation of USC 18 section 2071. When some of her e-mails were released, and the ones from Blumenthal -- it all should have been the biggest thing since Watergate.
Really.
Walt
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