Posted on Nov 14, 2017
"The Gun that Could have Won America": The Notorious Ferguson Rifle - Guns.com
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When compared to the Brown Bess, an argument could be made for this. However, when placed up against the 'Long Rifle,' known mostly as the Kentucky or Pennsylvania Rifle, and the marksmanship and primary fighting style of the American Rifleman, I think that it would be a no contest win by the 'Long Rifle.'
Aimed fire over mass fire in rifle contest, aimed fire wins most of the time, three reasons - number and types of kills, and tactics.
Aimed fire over mass fire in rifle contest, aimed fire wins most of the time, three reasons - number and types of kills, and tactics.
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MSgt Gerald Orvis
While the American longrifle proved the bane of British troops early in the Revolution (particularly at the siege of Boston in 1775), the British later came to have little respect for American riflemen. American longrifles took too long to load (about a minute with loose powder/ball - there were no paper cartridges for rifles, and each rifleman had to mould his own ball due the variations in caliber among rifles) and could not mount a bayonet. On the other hand, British light infantrymen could fire three rounds per minute (using paper cartridges) and were able to use bayonets. So they just double-timed against American rifle units who didn't have time to reload and had to flee. George Washington recognized this and broke up his large rifle units, and thereafter only employed riflemen as skirmishers when they could be backed up by regular troops armed with muzzleloading smoothbore muskets equipped with bayonets. Used in this fashion, American rifleman Timothy Murphy (acting as a sniper in a tree), as part of Daniel Morgan's riflemen, probably won the Battle of Saratoga in 1777 by killing the British General Fraser at long range, thus nullifying a British attempt to rally against an American attack. I own two recreated flintlock longrifles. I have learned that in order to have accuracy beyond 100 yards, one practically must grow up with that rifle and "learn it." That's what American riflemen did, but even so they were lucky to hit anything smaller than a horse at 300-400 yards. At 200 yards or less, however, they were deadly.
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CW5 Jack Cardwell interesting read. I still doubt that it would have changed the outcome. The British Military underestimated the Colonial Military as a fighting force. Technology will overcome some of that, but a determined enemy fighting for their home is a deadly foe. As an example, look at what happened in Vietnam. I mean absolutely no disrespect to those who served there. I simply mean that the U.S. military was technologically far superior to the Vietnamese military, and if it was just about technology and there was no bureaucracy between the forces on the ground then things would be different. There are always politicians, and that will always be a factor in any military engagements.
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So the U.S. wasn't the only army to be slow in adopting more advanced weapons, the civil war would have been different if the U.S. had adopted repeating rifles, but for some reason stuck with what they had, even after the civil war, troops were saddled with converted breech loaders and Native Americans had repeaters when they could get them. Only in the military.
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SGT Matthew S.
I always shake my head at that. There were repeating rifles during the Civil War, and you know the writing was on the wall that they were the way of future warfare. The U.S. military didn't adopt one, however, until the Krag. Still, doctrine was to fire as a single-shot rifle unless ordered or overrun until the Garand in WWII - almost 100 years after repeaters were reliably developed.
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