Posted on Aug 26, 2020
There's No Evidence Supporting Trump's Mail Ballot Warnings, FBI Says
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This is the equivalent of you telling me there is no evidence of malicious hackers exploiting or planning to exploit a vulnerability I could be adding to my system. Per the article:
"Trump and Barr have said they think foreign countries COULD attempt to counterfeit ballots and send them in to interfere with counting and that mail voting expansions will be "ripe with fraud" and a way for Democrats to "steal the election from the Republicans."" - emphasis added.
"Trump and Barr have said they think foreign countries COULD attempt to counterfeit ballots and send them in to interfere with counting and that mail voting expansions will be "ripe with fraud" and a way for Democrats to "steal the election from the Republicans."" - emphasis added.
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You should give the FBI the information they are missing.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
I think it is you who is missing something. Trump and Barr are noting a vulnerability to our system being proposed and/or implemented. The FBI only stated they have no evidence anyone is planning to exploit that vulnerability. Were they even asked if there is a vulnerability? Maybe so, but the article only spoke of "election officials and experts" not the FBI (likely because the FBI would never publicly confirm vulnerabilities which haven't been publicly exploited).
As part of my own job I have repeatedly been tasked to identify and report vulnerabilities (to include new vulnerabilities if we opt to add additional features to the construct). From there the person who owns that construct must decide whether to deny the new feature or fix, mitigate, or accept the risk. You appear to be someone willing to accept the risk. I've done this from both a physical and cyber perspective.
Now noting that the Russians did in fact attempt to interfere with our election in 2016 (we can agree on that right) we establish history (which in fact goes much further back the 2016). We also can note they have established intent to interfere with our elections right? Looking at this from a intelligence perspective, the only thing I'm really missing here is the demonstrated capability to interfere with our elections by messing with the mass ballot by mail Democrats want for this election. There are no guarantees this method will be safe and that the issues with absentee ballots won't be increased exponentially. Looking at it and noting the statement from the article that this vector of attack is unlikely since our election system is very decentralized by the states.
As a former Red Team expert I find that statement hilarious. The Russians, Chinese, etc, are not dumb. They don't need to affect each and every state, they only need to affect those which can subtly get enough votes to reach the required electoral votes. This by the way could affect either candidate as reports have also speculated China wants Biden and Russia wants Trump. How about we don't introduce unnecessary new features into our election systems for no better reason than to create a perception that Trump does not want everyone to vote. The way I see it, one could argue that it also creates a perception that the Democrats want this as an insurance policy to "plausibly" deny the results of the election if Trump wins. That is by "suddenly" finding more mailed in ballots left behind in a corner or accusing the USPS of delaying the mail. It's already created controversy and it wasn't even necessary in the first place.
Tell you what, maybe we can return to this conversation after the election and hope for the best, that a chaos generated by this method of voting never materialized. I for one believe we are introducing unnecessary risk, more divisiveness, and more distrust in our government. How about that... Playing once again right into Russia's hands.
As part of my own job I have repeatedly been tasked to identify and report vulnerabilities (to include new vulnerabilities if we opt to add additional features to the construct). From there the person who owns that construct must decide whether to deny the new feature or fix, mitigate, or accept the risk. You appear to be someone willing to accept the risk. I've done this from both a physical and cyber perspective.
Now noting that the Russians did in fact attempt to interfere with our election in 2016 (we can agree on that right) we establish history (which in fact goes much further back the 2016). We also can note they have established intent to interfere with our elections right? Looking at this from a intelligence perspective, the only thing I'm really missing here is the demonstrated capability to interfere with our elections by messing with the mass ballot by mail Democrats want for this election. There are no guarantees this method will be safe and that the issues with absentee ballots won't be increased exponentially. Looking at it and noting the statement from the article that this vector of attack is unlikely since our election system is very decentralized by the states.
As a former Red Team expert I find that statement hilarious. The Russians, Chinese, etc, are not dumb. They don't need to affect each and every state, they only need to affect those which can subtly get enough votes to reach the required electoral votes. This by the way could affect either candidate as reports have also speculated China wants Biden and Russia wants Trump. How about we don't introduce unnecessary new features into our election systems for no better reason than to create a perception that Trump does not want everyone to vote. The way I see it, one could argue that it also creates a perception that the Democrats want this as an insurance policy to "plausibly" deny the results of the election if Trump wins. That is by "suddenly" finding more mailed in ballots left behind in a corner or accusing the USPS of delaying the mail. It's already created controversy and it wasn't even necessary in the first place.
Tell you what, maybe we can return to this conversation after the election and hope for the best, that a chaos generated by this method of voting never materialized. I for one believe we are introducing unnecessary risk, more divisiveness, and more distrust in our government. How about that... Playing once again right into Russia's hands.
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If it was good enough in every other election, then it should be good enough this election.
https://www.eac.gov/news/2017/06/29/newly-released-2016-election-administration-and-voting-survey-provides-snapshot
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:5sr3c3w0TngJ:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/28/trump-might-have-won-three-states-2016-solely-strength-republican-absentee-voting/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us (cached WaPo article because I don't have a subscription)
https://www.eac.gov/news/2017/06/29/newly-released-2016-election-administration-and-voting-survey-provides-snapshot
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:5sr3c3w0TngJ:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/28/trump-might-have-won-three-states-2016-solely-strength-republican-absentee-voting/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us (cached WaPo article because I don't have a subscription)
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