Posted on Jan 3, 2016
There's one way to solve gun violence — and the US isn't doing it
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THIS IS NOT A "WE SHOULD GET RID OF ALL GUNS" ARTICLE!
Personally, I don't care if you have a weapon or not. Have as many as your money can get. Wallpaper your home with your weapons. I...don't...care!
What I DO care about is this...
Recently, the escalation of gun violence in America has prompted many in the medical community to call it an epidemic. As of right now, there is no national database to accurately record the number of gun related incidents, be it accidental or otherwise, in America. To contrast this, we have far more accurate information on what happens when one drinks, drinks and drives, smokes, uses or abuses illicit or prescription drugs, or has unprotected sex than we do about gun violence.
Should this be officially be diagnosed as a national epidemic, what steps should we as a nation take to stem it and do we have the testicular fortitude as a nation to combat it in the same way we do as drug abuse or drunk driving?
Personally, I don't care if you have a weapon or not. Have as many as your money can get. Wallpaper your home with your weapons. I...don't...care!
What I DO care about is this...
Recently, the escalation of gun violence in America has prompted many in the medical community to call it an epidemic. As of right now, there is no national database to accurately record the number of gun related incidents, be it accidental or otherwise, in America. To contrast this, we have far more accurate information on what happens when one drinks, drinks and drives, smokes, uses or abuses illicit or prescription drugs, or has unprotected sex than we do about gun violence.
Should this be officially be diagnosed as a national epidemic, what steps should we as a nation take to stem it and do we have the testicular fortitude as a nation to combat it in the same way we do as drug abuse or drunk driving?
There's one way to solve gun violence — and the US isn't doing it
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The medical community should refrain from calling anything like this an epidemic. Most are not qualified to make any such statement. Second, the "gun violence" issue, as noted by others, is primarily a problem with abiding by laws and society not helping people with mental health issues. I also believe a part of the issue is people not being held responsible for their actions. Without this reinforcement of punishment for misdeeds, people begin to believe their are no consequences for their actions. Furthermore, our society doesn't respect others enough now to forget they have rights too. We need a culture shift of respect and responsibility to start changing this. Until then, people will whine about this till their blue in the face.
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MSgt Alex Taylor
Not by the medical community. Violence is not their purview. The FBI and other law enforcement agencies have much hard data on the issue. If the medical community feels strongly about this, they should begin looking for the root cause of why people don't value the lives of others. Find that, and I believe you will get a better idea of what causes the violence. Firearms are just a means to an end in this case. Take those away and you have knives, bats, pipe bombs, cast iron pans, semi-trucks, and a whole slew of other things that can be used as lethal implements. We have to fix society instead of blaming law abiding citizens for the misuse of firearms. As Cpl Kirk Sain mentioned, it's those with ill intent that abuse guns.
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Causation/Correlation and gun violence. Most look at the gun not the overarching reason why there is gun violence. The only people to blame for gun violence are those who do not adhere to the law. Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, et. al. are are ran by people who believe that guns are the problem not the criminals or mentally deranged people using them.
Inner city violence is not carried out by law abiding citizens, it's the criminal element. The gun-related crimes perpetrated in Colorado or Sandy Hook were carried out by mentally deranged people. The systems/laws in place to protect the mentally deficient did not protect the innocent. Just as the laws/regulations in Chicago are not going to be followed by the criminal element. The deranged will use whatever means available, guns, knives, bombs, baseball bats, axes, etc., period. No law or regulation will stop it.
The "right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation" is what the D party says is their platform on firearms, but the Second amendment states, "shall not be infringed." The language is clear. So why hasn't' the Democrat party tried to amend the US Constitution instead of usurping the intent. "Strengthen gun control to reduce violence" is another platform but we see right now the strict regulations in Chicago do not deter violence from the criminal element.
The common theme is the more laws/regulations/systems and who advocates those beliefs in most cases, the democrat party. H.R. 4269 is a democrat sponsored bill, gun bans are democrat sponsored, gun confiscation is democrat sponsored, registration is democrat sponsored. See the pattern yet?
Inner city violence is not carried out by law abiding citizens, it's the criminal element. The gun-related crimes perpetrated in Colorado or Sandy Hook were carried out by mentally deranged people. The systems/laws in place to protect the mentally deficient did not protect the innocent. Just as the laws/regulations in Chicago are not going to be followed by the criminal element. The deranged will use whatever means available, guns, knives, bombs, baseball bats, axes, etc., period. No law or regulation will stop it.
The "right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation" is what the D party says is their platform on firearms, but the Second amendment states, "shall not be infringed." The language is clear. So why hasn't' the Democrat party tried to amend the US Constitution instead of usurping the intent. "Strengthen gun control to reduce violence" is another platform but we see right now the strict regulations in Chicago do not deter violence from the criminal element.
The common theme is the more laws/regulations/systems and who advocates those beliefs in most cases, the democrat party. H.R. 4269 is a democrat sponsored bill, gun bans are democrat sponsored, gun confiscation is democrat sponsored, registration is democrat sponsored. See the pattern yet?
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SSG Michael Hartsfield
And yet, gun rights not withstanding, your statement still doesn't address why their isn't a database that states definitively how many Americans are killed due to gun violence or address the outbreak of mass shootings. Also, this isn't just about how gun violence has affected our inner cities, but how it is affecting our rural and suburban areas as well. You see this as one party's attempt to infringe on a person's right to have a weapon but I see it as a way to have an accurate record of people that have died to gun violence, something that we don't have an accurate record of.
I get that people are going to kill people with whatever is available but if we have data on how many people die each year from drugs, DUIs, or AIDS then why don't we know with any certainty how many Americans die from weapons? Also, if this is happening because of ignorance, then why aren't we educating people? If this is happening because of mental ill people, then why aren't recognized and given the treatment they need?
Like I said before, I don't care if you have enough weapons to arm a small nation. What I do care about is why so many people don't want to have this studied as a national epidemic and do everything we can to curb the spread.
I get that people are going to kill people with whatever is available but if we have data on how many people die each year from drugs, DUIs, or AIDS then why don't we know with any certainty how many Americans die from weapons? Also, if this is happening because of ignorance, then why aren't we educating people? If this is happening because of mental ill people, then why aren't recognized and given the treatment they need?
Like I said before, I don't care if you have enough weapons to arm a small nation. What I do care about is why so many people don't want to have this studied as a national epidemic and do everything we can to curb the spread.
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Cpl (Join to see)
I need you to source "their isn't a database that states definitively how many Americans are killed due to gun violence." The FBI has plenty of statistics that aren't even used by the media to promote the anti-gun agenda. Who is stating there isn't national statistics? The missing database I don't see is the gun related incidents that promote self defense.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-20
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-20
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SSG Michael Hartsfield
Um...those was stats from 2011 and I would ask that you read the article I posted. Also, you haven't said anything about why gun violence shouldn't be studied as a national epidemic.
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Cpl (Join to see)
So you couldn't click on the links to see the statistics from other years? Keep in mind we just left 2015 behind and statistics are still being compiled while the FBI awaits the states reports. It's not an epidemic, reports show that gun violence is declining. I believe it was CPT (Join to see) who posted the link below that showed those statistics.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/10/21/gun-homicides-steady-after-decline-in-90s-suicide-rate-edges-up/
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/10/21/gun-homicides-steady-after-decline-in-90s-suicide-rate-edges-up/
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s
Gun homicides steady after decline in ’90s; suicide rate edges up
Although most Americans think the number of gun crimes has risen, the U.S. gun homicide rate has actually stabilized somewhat in recent years.
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