Posted on Oct 30, 2017
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WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge in Washington on Monday barred President Donald Trump's administration from excluding transgender people from military service.
US court bars Trump from reversing transgender troops policy
Posted from sfchronicle.com
Office of the President (POTUS)
LGBTQ+
Transgender
Posted >1 y ago
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So one President can have an Executive Order and the courts are silent and then another President issues an Executive Order and the courts step in. It appears we have a legal issue here when it comes to the political affiliation of the President and the use of Executive Orders vs Congressional policy. This will be heading to the SCOTUS to rule on anyway.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
PFC Michael Korach - when you have multiple circuits all going the same way, with the same interpretation, it is unlikely that SCOTUS will overturn.
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PFC Michael Korach
Capt Gregory Prickett - agreeded and as time moves on this President will appoint judges who see this issue differently and for sometime in the future. As the pendulum swings the other way.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
PFC Michael Korach - that's not how it has worked, historically. Once you have a body of decisions, all going the same way, future courts, even ideologically different courts, are loth to reverse precedent.
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Susan Foster
This would have all worked out without the drama if he had left it alone and left off the EO. There seemed to be no reason for it, and even the heads of services were caught off guard--as well as Mattis. Mattis was already evaluating the policy because he had been asked to (not because they don't serve as well as anyone else). He just caused needless drama and I'll bet he didn't ask any lawyers ahead of time.
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Some here have asked why I post these articles, with annoyance. I do so to bring attention to those of us who have served / are serving and want to serve their country.
In 1991, when our country was at war, the medical fact that I was a M2F transsexual in transition didn't seem to be a disqualifying factor for the army.
Although attempts at MEPS were made to humiliate me, and I was treated in a derogatory fashion by some, I passed my physical and psychological evaluation reporting for Duty, and was deployed to Southwest Asia where I served for several months.
After leaving active duty in 1988 I worked for an airline in a professional capacity, being an executive level in their IT department. My post military careers have always been professional positions, I'm not a pornstar or a sex worker nor would I ever dream of such, which seems to be common fixation with some people.
Others denigrate our medical condition as a lifestyle choice, or a fetish and gloat over the fact the suicide rate is so high (its not) using this as proof of our instability.
And I just love it when people pull out some archaic line of scripture and attempt to use it to beat us over the head. Those of you without sin, cast the first stone.
I served my country in War and Peace with all my heart and was willing to risk everything, all I ask for is respect. No one carried my pack, paid my way or took up the slack for me.
In fact people like me are a minority in the service, and it wouldn't surprise me if the real number turns out to be less than 5000 in force of over a million.
We have served, are serving and will continue to serve no matter what POTUS tweets.
We're ready, willing and able to give our country our last full measure of devotion should circumstances require us to do so.
In 1991, when our country was at war, the medical fact that I was a M2F transsexual in transition didn't seem to be a disqualifying factor for the army.
Although attempts at MEPS were made to humiliate me, and I was treated in a derogatory fashion by some, I passed my physical and psychological evaluation reporting for Duty, and was deployed to Southwest Asia where I served for several months.
After leaving active duty in 1988 I worked for an airline in a professional capacity, being an executive level in their IT department. My post military careers have always been professional positions, I'm not a pornstar or a sex worker nor would I ever dream of such, which seems to be common fixation with some people.
Others denigrate our medical condition as a lifestyle choice, or a fetish and gloat over the fact the suicide rate is so high (its not) using this as proof of our instability.
And I just love it when people pull out some archaic line of scripture and attempt to use it to beat us over the head. Those of you without sin, cast the first stone.
I served my country in War and Peace with all my heart and was willing to risk everything, all I ask for is respect. No one carried my pack, paid my way or took up the slack for me.
In fact people like me are a minority in the service, and it wouldn't surprise me if the real number turns out to be less than 5000 in force of over a million.
We have served, are serving and will continue to serve no matter what POTUS tweets.
We're ready, willing and able to give our country our last full measure of devotion should circumstances require us to do so.
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He doesn't have to reverse the policy to keep most transgender service members from serving, he simply needs to keep service members who are on hormone therapy, have recently transitioned or who are considering transitioning from positions that might need to deploy.
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SGT Victoria Belbusti
We’ve been deploying transgender service members and no issues came to light. So why keep them from deploying? Unless they are still transitioning and not yet stable on their meds.
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SGT Victoria Belbusti - I'm not suggesting, or saying he should do this... only that it's possible to implement what would effectively be a ban in such a way that a court wouldn't block it. The focus is one the theater, not the policy itself.
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