Posted on Mar 10, 2017
US military nude photo sharing scandal widens beyond Marines - BBC News
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US servicemen from all parts of the military have been sharing nude photos of their female colleagues online, it has emerged.
Reports last week uncovered widespread photo sharing by current and former Marines on Facebook, triggering a navy investigation.
But the BBC has seen a message board where servicemen from other branches have shared hundreds of photos.
The Pentagon said such behaviour was "inconsistent" with its values.
Male service members use a message board on an anonymous image hosting website to share nude images of their female counterparts.
They often first post clothed photos of female personnel taken from their social media pages, and ask if any members have nude photos, which they call "wins". Others then post photos.
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US servicemen from all parts of the military have been sharing nude photos of their female colleagues online, it has emerged.
Reports last week uncovered widespread photo sharing by current and former Marines on Facebook, triggering a navy investigation.
But the BBC has seen a message board where servicemen from other branches have shared hundreds of photos.
The Pentagon said such behaviour was "inconsistent" with its values.
Male service members use a message board on an anonymous image hosting website to share nude images of their female counterparts.
They often first post clothed photos of female personnel taken from their social media pages, and ask if any members have nude photos, which they call "wins". Others then post photos.
US military nude photo sharing scandal widens beyond Marines - BBC News
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I don't remember which site I was reading the comments on, but so many people are blaming the women. While I agree that taking nude photos and sending them to someone may not be right, I firmly believe that does not give the receiver the right to share/publicly post.
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PO3 Yvonne Biehl
Perhaps Judy and Bob were in a relationship where a certain amount of trust is shared. Perhaps Bob got his feelings hurt and decided he'd enact revenge.
Regardless of the scenario Bob did not have the right to share something he was trusted with. I believe these women need to think smarter I also believe what these men did is wrong. PO3 Donald Murphy -
Regardless of the scenario Bob did not have the right to share something he was trusted with. I believe these women need to think smarter I also believe what these men did is wrong. PO3 Donald Murphy -
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PO3 Donald Murphy
PO3 Yvonne Biehl - "Wrong," yes. "Illegal," no. And its not just women per se. There's a ton of sites where jilted lovers can post photos/movies of their exes in the nude. And there's as many "myexboyfriend.com" sites as there are "myexgirlfriend.com" sites. So "revenge porn" has been going on for a while.
And having been in I.T. for eons (it seems... :-0 ) the delete button is never truly the delete button. Just because Judy deleted it from her phone doesn't mean its still not on Bob's phone. And thats a sad dynamic, but sadly, not an illegal dynamic.
And having been in I.T. for eons (it seems... :-0 ) the delete button is never truly the delete button. Just because Judy deleted it from her phone doesn't mean its still not on Bob's phone. And thats a sad dynamic, but sadly, not an illegal dynamic.
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PO3 Yvonne Biehl
What is illegal is that a few of these women were stalked and had their pictures taken without consent. Not all of the pictures are nudes and these guys were posting about what they'd like to do to them--some of that , a lot of that, bordered on rape. That is also illegal. PO3 Donald Murphy -
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PO3 Donald Murphy
PO3 Yvonne Biehl - The stalking is definitely illegal. The talk - "gee, I'd sure like to f*** that girl," I'm not sure where that would fall. We see that a lot of places in the media. Theres tons of sites and of course, porn itself is legal within age limits.
Its definitely going to be a landmark ruling for whatever court gets it. As a father of two girls and grandfather of a grand daughter, I wish it well, but theres a lot of hurdles to jump. Namely the business that thrives off of it.
Its definitely going to be a landmark ruling for whatever court gets it. As a father of two girls and grandfather of a grand daughter, I wish it well, but theres a lot of hurdles to jump. Namely the business that thrives off of it.
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I have to say this is a sad statement about the moral values of our male colleagues.
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PO3 Donald Murphy
Well not necessarily all male. Females are posing for the photos, correct? Unless a girl can insist/demand/prove that her naked body was photographed without her permission, then its gonna be a tough case to prosecute. And I'll give that angle less than 1% sadly... Our own civilian daughters can't go 24 hours without letting the web know what their hair, lipstick and eyebrows look like, right? Think about the selfie stick and why that was invented. People love to let people see them. And the more "likes" you get under your photo/post, the better. Its a culture.
Perhaps the US military will need to do what most of civilian life does and ban the internet for non-work related activity? I'm not allowed facebook at my job. Most civilians aren't.
Perhaps the US military will need to do what most of civilian life does and ban the internet for non-work related activity? I'm not allowed facebook at my job. Most civilians aren't.
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Col Rebecca Lorraine
I don't believe that these women are voluntarily submitting to nude photos for the purpose of wide dissemination. That does neither excuse or explain this secret sharing of photos that were acquired without their knowledge. Privately what a person does is their business. Not for exploitation.
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PO3 Donald Murphy
Col Rebecca Lorraine - In the Navy during my day, being in female berthing was a hands-down, no questions asked, arrest offense if you were a guy. So in that case, a woman who was photographed in any condition (clothed or otherwise) from inside berthing would be instant dismissal under old school rules. But any photos taken outside of berthing...... Well, that's a different kettle of fish. And while you are correct that my nudes are my nudes for my business as I see fit, the overlying problem is that once the image is taken, its never truly deleted. It never truly goes away.
To give you a positive example of this phenomenon, I have my first grand child and my daughter delights in flooding me hourly with every move she makes, diaper changes, new outfit, sucking thumb while asleep, etc. I probably get 100 photos a day. My wife even more. Yet, the reality is that were someone to steal my phone, there'd be several thousand photos of my grand daughter on that phone. And although I'm constantly sucking the photos off of my phone onto my computer, they are still "there" in easily recoverable form if you have an iPhone, mildly-difficult-to-recover if you have an Android.
Sadly its like sex: abstinence is the only 100% guaranteed form of birth control...
To give you a positive example of this phenomenon, I have my first grand child and my daughter delights in flooding me hourly with every move she makes, diaper changes, new outfit, sucking thumb while asleep, etc. I probably get 100 photos a day. My wife even more. Yet, the reality is that were someone to steal my phone, there'd be several thousand photos of my grand daughter on that phone. And although I'm constantly sucking the photos off of my phone onto my computer, they are still "there" in easily recoverable form if you have an iPhone, mildly-difficult-to-recover if you have an Android.
Sadly its like sex: abstinence is the only 100% guaranteed form of birth control...
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We should have known that this was not as quiet as they thought it would be. Bring on the court-martials.
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