Posted on Mar 4, 2022
Volunteer fighters arrive in Ukraine. But the untrained should stay home
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I wonder if LTC Vindman is one of them--NOT!
Volunteer fighters arrive in Ukraine. But the untrained should stay home
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I can understand both sides of this story, MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D.... The inexperienced or untrained should indeed stay home... Volunteers for this type of duty should already be trained for combat as they know what to expect and can perform at a high level... It will not be an easy road to pave... That's for sure!!!
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SPC Erich Guenther
Most of those with current combat experience do not have a clue either and never fought against Russia or modern Russian weapons. This is a heavy conventional war and we have not fought one of those since WWII and Korea. Far cry from the light insurgencies of Iraq and Afghanistan in tactics and execution.
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LTC David Brown
SPC Erich Guenther - I think a lot of veterans who fought in the cities of Iraq will have some expertise. Looks like there will be hard fighting in the city streets among the rubble that is left. Of course I am not combat arms so that is an opinion by someone expressing ignorance.
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SPC Erich Guenther
LTC David Brown - You have a right to an opinion. Difference is the house to house in Iraq was mostly rifles and the Iraqi's were not very well trained for the most part. Russians will have a LOT of trained snipers, Special Forces, Thermobaric bombs, etc. While it is true some skills will transfer combat to combat. Heard the remark before from Iraqi and Afghanistan Veterans sent to train the Ukrainians, the Ukrainians are dealing with a whole lot more than what they had to deal with in those two insurgencies. Russians have a huge inventory of legal and banned weapons to use.....including Chemical.
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Volunteer to fight a war for another country. I don't see that as exceptionally brilliant move for anyone to make. One can go on and on about how they are patriots and fighting the good fight and all that other stuff. However, they are still mercs and will be treated as such by the opposing force. How this all fits with the Geneva Conventions is beyond me and my understanding of them. In this case the Host country is not likely to make it and so one wonders who treats them after the war is over? Do they fall between the cracks? It's just not something that is smart to do and is more on the impulsive side of choices to be made in life. Especially in this case when the fight is highly likely to come to NATO anyway. Why not just wait for the fight to come to NATO. Volunteering for Ukraine is NOT going to prevent NATO from fighting in the future against Russia.
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SPC Erich Guenther
LTC David Brown - I'm 59, way too old as well for ground Infantry. Pretty sure this is going to be a NATO war soon. I have my doubts they will standby and watch too many of Putin's massacres, especially if they are televised on Ukrainian TV.
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