Posted on Apr 21, 2020
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In 2018, I jumped from the Air National Guard to the Army to (hopefully) become a Warrant Officer. Since then, I have helped usher several Air Force NCOs through the process. What is the Air Force not doing that would make anyone (including me) in their right mind want to go back to BTC and WOCS?
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CPT Nicholas D.
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Opportunity. The Army Warrant Officer community is massive, so there are a lot of opportunities both technical and in Aviation.

Additionally, some of the requirements are more attainable for a larger segment of the population. Example: a 4 year degree is not required to apply to be a Warrant Officer (although, most of my Warrant Officer friends do have at least a Bachelor’s and many Master’s and more). Army Warrant Officers are “technical experts” with a paycheck to follow. Depending on years of service, a topped out CW5 retirement is only a few bucks ($128 per month) shy of a topped out LTC.

The Army’s largest WO pool is Aviation. There is an attraction for folks that want to devote themselves to becoming those “technical experts” in the cockpit with out the same political and staff progression as the O side. It still absolutely exists within the WO corps, but it is different, and the difference in the expected quantity of flight time between an O career and a WO career is enough for people to pick a path. Most WOs will trade the salute in front of the PX to the 2LT for the much greater share of flight time, specialty tracks, etc.

The WO cohort also has a different vibe than the traditional officer corps. Much more familiarity and fraternity than other denominations.

Long story short: Serving as an Army Warrant Officer carries a proud tradition an a plethora of opportunity. It’s a unique service experience, and brings a lot of reward. I was very proud to be a Warrant, and as a CPT now, I think my best leadership traits that I harnessed were derived from my experience in the cohort.
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CW4 William Kessinger
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You Bet, also applied that tech expertise as a civilian in both the FAA and Corporate Aviation. And still remained in the reserves to fly Army.
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LTC Michael Keenan
LTC Michael Keenan
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In reference to technical expertise of warrant officers ,there is the old saying, "You can always tell a warrant officer, but you can't tell him much." I had the privilege of serving with warrant officers during my military career. They were all exceptionally competent and outstanding soldiers.
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SSG Environmental Specialist
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I never understood why a branch like Air Force with all the technical aspects did away with Warrant Officers??
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SSgt Security Forces
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Did they ever have warrants?
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SSG Aircraft Mechanic
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They had to cut something to afford all those commissioned officers and trillion dollar aircraft design programs.
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SFC Retired
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SSgt (Join to see), The Air Force did inherit warrant officers when it became a separate service, but saw no use for them, and phased them out.

The Army re-establishing aviation warrant officers in 1949.
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PO1 David M Burns
PO1 David M Burns
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years ago (vietnam) the army was looking for other service members to be warrant officers, I looked into it and the catch was that they would be reserve WO'S and would revert to their prior rank if riffed! said no thanks!
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Lt Col Jim Coe
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The Air Force doesn't have Warrant Officers, so NCOs who want to go that route have to move to the Department of the Army or Navy. Also, the Air Force requires manned-aircraft pilots and some other aircrew members to be officers, thus requiring them to have a bachelors degree. As far as I know, the Army does not require Army Aviation Warrant Officers to have a degree. Finally, the Air Force requires officers to compete for leadership positions almost continuously. Just being good at a technical specialty isn't enough to get promoted beyond O-4 in general. If you're a pilot and just want to fly, then the Air Force officer track is going to disappoint you somewhere along the way. Army Aviation WOs can just fly and look forward to making CWO-4 or maybe CWO-5.
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MSG Chuck Pewsey
MSG Chuck Pewsey
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When I was in Germany in 1970, we had a recycled Air Force warrant officer assigned to us after they ended their warrant officer. Think I ran into one or two more over the next twenty two years.
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CW4 William Kessinger
CW4 William Kessinger
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As far as I know the Air Force has not had any Warrant since the late 1950's. Probability the last one retired in 1963 or 1965. (Supply Warrant)
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CSM Charles Hayden
CSM Charles Hayden
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Lt Col Jim Coe And - the USAF continues to have shortages of pilots who want to fly airplanes? Your post is revealing, I have met several EX-USAF Pilots whom wanted to fly airplanes rather than filling out numerous reports about what ever! Will the admin administrators ever learn to let admins administrate and support pilots who want to fly just fly?
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