Posted on Jun 1, 2020
What do you consider as stopping career progression?
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Do you consider the following to be stopping career progression? If a Soldier has enough TIS and TIG to be promoted, is not flagged, and meets all requirements for promotion, but PSG won't allow Soldier to put in promotion packet. Is this allowed? Does the Soldier have to be counseled since they're at primary zone, but aren't being allowed to input packet? If this is considered stopping career progression, what should the Soldier do? SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SFC James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" LTC Stephen F. CPL Dave Hoover SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth SSG (Join to see) Capt Dwayne Conyers CPT Jack Durish
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Posted 4 y ago
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Do they have to be counseled, yes. If a Soldier is not ready for promotion, the unit is not obligated to send them anyway, but they DO have a responsibility to counsel and mentor to address the reasons why the SM is not ready.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
SSG(P) (Join to see) - That's not a requirement to attend a promotion board. The chain is setting themselves up for an IG poke in the eyeball..
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SSG(P) (Join to see)
SSG(P) (Join to see) That's what I told them and they stated they still won't allow Soldier to put in packet.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
1SG Mark Flowers - Nailed it in one. Thank you for doing what I was too lazy to do.
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I would want to ask why the Platoon Sergeant feels that a packet shouldn't be submitted.
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SSG(P) (Join to see)
PSG said it's because Soldier doesn't have an NCOER even though according to the promotion packet composition worksheet, NCOERs are not required. If Soldier has them, they include the last 5 (if they have them). If not, a memorandum is written stating why the Soldier doesn't have NCOER.
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MSG (Join to see)
SSG(P) (Join to see) - Yea....I can see why the PSG is thinking the way they are....but they are wrong. Letter of Input/MFR is all that is needed in lieu of missing/not applicable NCOERs. SFC Michael Hasbun is definitely on point with his comments in regards to a possible IG eye poke. Before that happens though, I would run this up the flag pole and utilize the open door policy of 1SG
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SSG (Join to see)
MSG (Join to see) - This is him he is referring to. He posted this question a couple months ago and he blocked me for my answer lol. He just got promoted to SGT and wants to get promoted to SSG already.
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would depend on why the SM doesn't have an NCOER. I cross leveled when I was an E5 and the school was so long that I met TIG/TIS requirements for E6 before I ever got an NCOER.
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LTC (Join to see)
SSG(P) (Join to see) - and there's the kicker. PSG has a burr under his saddle because he doesn't want to promote a guy to SSG that has only been a SGT for 7 months.
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