Posted on Jul 23, 2020
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Instead of leadership, mentorship, and referral to therapy during a rough time in my life, I instead got an EO complaint and after three years of fighting, the best FITREPs in the command for my rank, a master's degree, and a certification I am being removed for "misconduct". In the midst of this, was diagnosed with anxiety, treated, and never had another conflict with any one since the issues on my prior unit. They say I created a hostile environment which existed there before my arrival and still exists three years after my exit.
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Welcome to the Nurse Corps. You are either “in” or your are “out.” That is why I turned down my promotion chance and retiring. Stabbing people in the back and walking on people isn’t my idea of leadership and promotion opportunities. That’s not how I lead. I’ll retire with my integrity intact. I wish you well.
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ENS (Join to see) Same here. 12 years enlisted (MECP) and was fired from my Div-O job because I was holding the civilians accountable. The command didn’t want to “make any waves” with them so it was easier on them to remove me from the situation. Never had senior leadership that horrible. Glad I only have 16 months until retirement.
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I am being separated in September. My wife already moved to NorCal and is working as an NP at Stanford. Better things are definitely ahead. This legal BS has been holding her and my lives and careers back and while the exit is bittersweet, it is much awaited/ anticipated. I am sure with this NAM, LTJG quality FITREPs as an ENS for 4 years, and tons of process improvements with my name on them with tons of high ranking people willing to write buddy statements, I will be able to get the discharge upgraded. For reference, all of these issues happened at 5N at NMCSD. I am not sure if you're familiar with there, but that ward is particularly notorious for bad things happening.
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ENS (Join to see) I started my nursing career on 2E then moved to the NICU at NNCSD. I’m very familiar with the goings on there. I know things will be better for you post Navy. Let me know if you need anything. Mel
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LCDR Nicky Tomblin
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I am so sorry this has happened to you, but like LT said it is the Nurse Corp. I was prior enlisted 8 years went to MECP so a total of 11 years enlisted, top HM1. However, in the NC I could not get a leadership position. I was sent to DUINS and made O4 and still could not get a DIVO or DH position. Once I put in for my retirement, the doctors and other midwife with a few more NC favorites tried to harm my NP license and say I was incompetent. At retirement, I had to get an attorney to save my credentials and license. The NC is horrible, the people are evil and they will get the Karma back to them. No matter how hard you work in the NC like the LT said, either you are in or out. I was sent from Camp Lejeune to 29 Palms, CA so who did I piss off. Who wants to retire at 29 stomps? I pray for you both. To be out of the Navy is so much better. You will be fine and prayerfully around better leaders and better people. It is sad to say that I have experienced better camroderie in the civilian sector than in the military. I would honestly been afraid to go to war with any of the colleagues I encountered in the NC. When I was a corpsman their were different leaders and way better NC officers than now.
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CDR Angelia Elumoneal
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In the Nurse Corp we eat our young. Too few in leadership will stand up to conflict and unfair treatment of a junior officer. If you are a woman of color you are alone. Forgive what you could not change and keep moving forward. You will receive your blessing no matter what other may say,
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Thanks for your support. I must say being a nurse on the civilian side was much different. I did it a little before and during I was on active duty. I start at Stanford in November and could not be more excited. My exit from the Navy and the nature of it will always be bittersweet because I always dreamed of doing a lot of things on the operational side that many avoid. Maybe it is all a blessing in disguise and I just don't realize yet, but I have definitely grown and matured at a rapid pace since that experience on 5N at NMCSD.
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LCDR Nicky Tomblin
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It is a blessing in disguise and if they caused you mental health issues you need to let the VA know about it.
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LCDR Nicky Tomblin
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CDR you are so right on. I am a black female NC officer who retired this year, I almost went crazy my last 4 years as an O4 there was no upward movement for me. Can you believe I was prior enlisted made HM1 less than 8 years in. Was the leader of several departments at Camp Pendleton with a million dollar budget, but as an officer could not get a leadership position. They made be the worker bee- denied me leave and once I put in for my retirement tried to harm my credentials and stated I was incompetent as a Certified Nurse- Midwife. However, if I was so unsafe supposedly I still saw more patients than any civilian and military midwife once I viewed my RVUs for outpatient care. I had no PSR or any bad outcomes ever in my 25 year career. If I was so unsafe they would have moved me from all of patient care. The needed someone for access to care in the clinic while they take the call and be post call next day (off). I will trust that they will get what is due to them. Liars will not prosper. And we must remember no weapon formed against us shall prosper. Stay encouraged!
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I learned a long time ago not to mess with DACs, they're unionized and if you screw with them much the union will file a grievance and all sorts of stuff happens. Best just let them be and work over or around them or better just do not call them. Mine was over a fuse in a piece of COMEL at PSF. A fuse may let go from ole age or a real problem. First item is change fuse and if it blows tear into the equipment and see what wrong, if not you've fixed it. Had one blow my NCOIC said we had to put in a work order. By and by a couple DAC Radio Mechanics came. I had pulled the fuse and showed that it was blown, not a violent blow but normal break. Well, the one guy said I was not supposed to examine the fuse. Their contract said that they were the only ones that could do anything above operator maintenance. So I said well replace the fuse. They said that was beneath their pay grade or to that effect. I said well, send for the guy that can do it. He is on vacation and be back in about 10 days. I thought a minute and said OK, thanks. As soon as they left I got a fuse, replaced it and all was OK. My boss said that I did well, had they filed a grievance for military trying to do their job or tell them how to do theirs, the poop would have been deep.

Expect it the same with DNCs.
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