Posted on Nov 7, 2019
CPL Lance Storm
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I enlisted with a 4 x 4 contract with active duty, and completed my active obligation with an honorable discharge in 2018. A year goes by a 79V comes to me and offers me to do the "Try One" program. She assures me that if I do not like it I can just switch back to IRR, no questions asked since all it took was a 4187 to put me in. Long story short, I want to go back to the IRR because of personal, financial reasons but the unit is telling me that I "may or may not be able to go back" depending on the brigade or command. What the hell? Did I get scammed or something? I've been looking up regulations and I've yet to find anything on this program except for the fact that it is on the Army Reserves website but the details are very vague. It doesn't seem fair that the Army has this program to trick IRR Soldiers into the USAR and locks them in at the commander's discretion. The only reason I signed the 4187 because it's a "trial program" and I was told if I didn't like it, then I could go back. What are my options here?
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SGM Operations Ncoic
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A recruiter told you you could do what you want "no questions asked"...
And you bought that, with 4 years of previous military experience.
The "trial program" is the whole 12 month "Try One". You "try it" for the whole one year.
The approval authority for your transfer back to the IRR is the first two-star in your chain of command, and your BN and BDE commanders get to recommend or non-recommend.
And that process takes about 4-6 months when everyone is going to bat for you.
Do your drills and ETS. Or go to your BC with a well-worded MFR that details exactly how staying in a drilling status puts undue financial strain on you and your family, and start the long separation process that might beat your ETS by 3 months.
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CPL Lance Storm
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You're right I should've known better than to trust them. With that being said I appreciate the info SGM. I'll request an open door policy with the commander/1SG.
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MSG Senior Drill Sergeant
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Finish your one year commitment and go back to the IRR.
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CPL Lance Storm
CPL Lance Storm
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4187 doesn't mention anything of the program. just shows the slot I'll be filling. Which concerns me because there is nothing telling me I have a 1 year commitment which can possibly be used to keep me until my MSO is up in 2021.
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CPL Lance Storm, have you contacted your ARCC to ask for specifics? This isn’t my area of expertise so I’m trying to work through what little experience and knowledge I have to help you.

Have you reported to a unit yet?
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CPL Lance Storm
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Yeah unfortunately i did report and it turns out if I hadn't there wouldn't be no repercussions. No I haven't contacted ARCC, I'm still very new to the whole USAR thing and I'm kind of blind now. I really appreciate the help though, top. I can give them a call in the morning.
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MSG Senior Drill Sergeant
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CPL Lance Storm, contact your ARCC first thing tomorrow and discuss your concerns with them. You can also discuss your concerns with the unit 1SG or commander.
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PS: be lucky you're in... one day the gate closes... Then you'll be on the outside looking in.
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