Trump signs bill reversing Obama rule to ban gun purchases by mentally ill

SPC Casey Ashfield - Hey genius, why are you posting something that completely counters your initial argument? To whit, you first posted, "Obama's SSA bill never passed, so there is nothing to undo", and then posted an article from WaPo that shows they were undoing the very thing you said didn't need to be undone.

Maybe you are the one that needs to brush up on your reading skills. That, and you may have better luck if you would refrain from posting like a third grader.

MSgt Steve Sweeney - Obviously I am a "third grader" who understands how laws work. And the Constitution. The SSA ban never became law. Down vote for attitudes unbecoming a NCO.

SPC Casey Ashfield - Bummer. Now I will never get that toaster oven. Do better. Congrats on your law degree. Trump University?

MSgt Steve Sweeney - Do better? Trying to goad me for some immature reason? This is as low road as I am going to get. Infantry had ways of dealing with disrespectful NCOs such as yourself that the statute of limitations hasn't been reached yet. You are a peon pecking away at a keyboard because politics aren't going your way and I refuse to lower myself to your standards. Have a good day ranting and raving like a child whom should know better.

MSgt Steve Sweeney - " You have a friend and fellow down voter! I will never get that toaster oven at this rate. Always fun to see groupthink in action though."
I wont speak for others.. My down vote was in response to your actions, not your opinions.
Which do by the way..mirror the very thing you accuse others of...group think... And your personal attacks on anyone that posts contrary to your group think is another reason for the down vote.

Care to post relevant to the topic now?
"trump-signs-bill-reversing-obama-rule-to-ban-gun-purchases-by-mentally-ill"

Which of course in the many months since that happened its been shown why the headline was hyperbole..... even still, the left group think claims otherwise..
Why is that you think?

What scares the left so significantly into disagreeing with due process and considering each person on their merits or issues...vice that now defunct end run around proper legislation???

SGM Erik Marquez - Yeah, I am sure all those people yelling "lock her up" or "send them back" are really interested in due process. Don't espouse your concerns for due process in one moment, and then turn around and talk about how mental illness is the main problem with these mass shootings, and wondering why the authorities didn't intervene or do more. Maybe stick to blaming video games.

I don't care about your down vote. My politics don't run right enough, and I don't spam enough to ever make your leaderboard. Maybe I should be more like Bob McCord and suck up to the admins. I didn't see you say anything to him when he responded to your comment in our conversation running his little soup cooler and stirring up trouble.

PO3 Bob McCord - Actually, it is not really for him. Responding with factual information and informed opinion actually influences those on the side lines that can be influenced. With that in mind it may feed his mentally handicapped ego, it gives an avenue for others to understand why he is wrong in fact and how lies influence his opinion.

SGM Erik Marquez What is even more sad about what Mr. Sweeney states about the two examples that he gives about public opinion shows that he does not actually know and understand what 'due process' is nor does he show a full cognizance of the facts that he is trying to repudiate.
In the first one, "lock her up," we know from publicly available information that 'due process' was not actually done for whatever reason, especially since the reason given was and is not legally justifiable. It appears that in that instance that someone was trying to run out the clock in conjunction with the statute of limitations and or a possibility of double jeopardy.
In the second one there is not necessarily a need for due process (except in one case) since the full context and statement when taken as stated (not necessarily as meant) does not mean what most leftist take it to mean. With that said, in the one individuals case, it appears that the political machinery in place is not allowing 'due process' to unfold since there is enough prima facie evidence to proceed. What is interesting is that in this case, it appears that someone or some group is also trying to run out the clock on this, since other people with issues other than immigration would have already been fully investigated in relationship to bigamy (though that state does not recognize common law marriage) and tax fraud. (See SSR 76-27: SECTION 1614(d)(2) and 1614(f)(1) (42 U.S.C. 1382c(d)(2) and 1382c(f)(1)) -- SUPPLEMENTAL SECURITY INCOME -- MARITAL RELATIONSHIP)

PO3 Bob McCord - You are right, they have occured in every administration, but it appears only one side is interested in doing anything about it, while the other side does whatever it can to stop anything being done about it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/28/trump-sign-bill-blocking-obama-gun-rule/98484106/

Patricia Overmeyer - Would you care to do your math again?
You are about 900 million off the mark of the numbers that you are using (which by the way is for a multi-year period instead of a single year). You may want to reread the article that you linked.
Or your could read the articles at the two following links:
https://www.thetrace.org/2018/10/nra-spending-decrease-2018-midterm-elections/
https://www.thetrace.org/2018/12/the-nras-financial-weakness-explained/

MSgt Steve Sweeney - "The Obama rule would have blocked mentally ill people from buying guns."
Yes it might have, however it was so poorly written and generalized it also would have blocked persons that are not mentally ill in a way that makes a danger to themselves or others in maintaining their 2nd amendment rights.

But the group think at the time was.."Hey, it doesn't affect me or my group of influences, so that it wrongly takes away others rights is an ok price to pay...well for them to pay"

Legislators doing their job and crafting a law that allows for due process based on the individual would be a great thing.... making a Kings rule"Obama administration rule"
that affects many it should not, is BS, and rightly so it was removed..... how was it removed? By a bill being crafted and the president signing it..

Of note.....Im not happy about ANY president abusing the executive order power

SGM Erik Marquez - An interesting point that you have made in this most recent comment. The reasoning behind our nations break with Great Britain (i.e. England).