Posted on Sep 2, 2018
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Last week I was having a conversation with an NCO (SGT) and during that conversation he was trash talking my NCOIC, First Line, and input how thing need to be ran and we need to be reminded that we work for our NCOICs and he lets us do to much and doesn’t make us work for him. He was referencing the fact that currently four soldiers, myself included, are working on going to selection (CID, SF, CA, or CI).

I notified my first line about this conversation and how it was unprofessional. My first line agreed and said he’d handle it.

Today I got an ass chewing from that NCO for “lying” about things he said and was warned to keep his name out of my mouth or else he’d make my life difficult and would take further action. My first line was present and after the fact just told me to continue to do what I need for my career.

I don’t care about he ass chewing but I do care that I was called a liar when I’m not. Is there anything else I can do or is it not worth my time?
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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It is going to happen from time to time. Whether you work on the civilian side where the military side you will eventually get caught up in some petty little politics. At some point someone will call you a liar, or accuse you of being unethical, or just generally question your moral compass.
The thing is, even after years of Stellar service some little turd somewhere is going to question you. You could have been awarded the Medal of Honor and someone will eventually question your moral standing.
Don't let your ego be the deciding factor. Right now, your ego is bruised because someone called you a liar. Your NCO is smart, they understand that this person is unimportant and trying to instigate with you so that they can take you down. Just ignore this person and their insults
You can learn a lot from these bad leaders. They are a shining example of the type of leader you should not be. You can learn just as much from Bad leaders as you can from good leaders.
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SGT Jim Ramge, MBA
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Having been in your very shoes, tread lightly... The fact that your First Line didn’t cease the conversation speaks for itself! As your NCO, I would have jumped his/her ass and stated, “We need to take this offline... You are my troop!” Totally unprofessional by his actions. There is obviously something more there... My suggestion, wait for some of the Sr. NCOs to jump on here, and take heed to their guidance. Other than that, sounds like one or both actually have morales/integrity/honors issues going on, so watch your ass and get promoted fast - then you will be on a more level playing ground for the stupidity! Until then, keep your nose clean and lay low. If it gets worse while there, consider volunteering to work on Staff for a change of pace!
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SSG Religious Affairs Ncoic
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My approach to this is to keep everything on the table. You should have said “SGT, let talk to our NCOIC and let him or her know about our concerns.” It is always good to bring issues to light at a round table instead of having side bars.
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