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Some people just shake their head when they see the news headlines, scroll past it, or lose their mind and share with the world. I would like to think deep down we all really do care about exposing phonies especially when they are wrongfully receiving benefits that the deserving need. There is a chain reaction that could be talked about forever on how the phonies hinder the process for veterans.
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I'm becoming more and more uncomfortable with this culture of SMs or Vets walking up to people and demanding proof of service. Lately there were two threads about 75 year old vets getting publicly humiliated by other vets. In one case the vet ( or maybe it was a soldier) wouldn't even believe the vets VA card, claiming anyone could print one out.

So that got me thinking how I would respond if someone saw me wearing either military related awards or badges on Veterans Day or say military badge related hats or Tshirts, and came up and started asking me questions. The truth is, in this day of identity theft and scams, I would probably politely tell that guy to f--k off. I sure as hell would never feel like I owe it to any stranger that walks up to me to produce my military ID card and DD214. Really, who the f--k do these people think they are?

This is the United States. I don't have to respond to "your papers please" from anybody, much less some soldier with a hair up his ass.

And as pissed as that would make me, I can't imagine how my dad would have responded when he was 75 if some twenty something "kid" walked up to him and basically demanded that he, a WWII and Korean War vet, prove to this stranger he is authorized to wear his CIB with star. Even at age 75, he would probably try and fight the guy.

So this whole blood sport of confronting and videoing and humiliating people just because they may be wearing a badge wrong has got to stop. It's unprofessional and unAmerican. As I said, I don't have to tell you where I went to basic, what Ranger School Class I was in, or anything else. It's none of your f--king business. You're a damn total stranger to me. Hell, I have no way of knowing if you are even a soldier yourself. So get out of my face and keep your vigilante bullshit away from me or my dad, or others like us. I'd rather a thousand clowns walk down the street in costume than one vet be humiliated by someone who probably hasn't served a fraction of the time the vet did.

There are laws about actually stealing goods or services by impersonating vets. Leave that to the stores. If they give military discounts to people without requiring appropriate ID cards or documentation, that's their mistake. IMO vets should stay in their lane and stop confronting people.
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PO3 Bob McCord
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SCPO Lonny Randolph - How did it float Chief?
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SCPO Lonny Randolph
SCPO Lonny Randolph
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Quickly to the bottom as I recall, giving rise to the submarine service...
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MCPO Mark Lowe
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I agree! They better have some backup if they are going to challenge me. Some of our younger generation just want to be punks. They need to learn a better way of dealing with situations like this, especially someone who is over 70. I remember when one of my great great uncles pinned one of my Chief anchors on back in '96, he put it on upside down. He was a retired Navy Chief at 86. I didn't correct it. It stayed like that until he left. But it was an honor to have him pin me 40 years after he had retired. A mistake, of course. Could I have corrected it right there. Of course I did. But I understood. Walking into the VFW or FRA, there are a lot of old timers in there. Yep, sometimes they have shit on that isn't right. But I don't berate them. I might offer to help them fix or correct it. Many would be surprised how many would appreciate that little gesture.
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My entertainment for the day. Thanks! Put a smile on my face.
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SN Greg Wright
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SFC (Join to see) It's not that I don't care, SFC. It's that I'd rather let 10 fake fuckers wear their fake rewards, than to (wrongly) accost one single vet that was legit.
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LCpl Walter Larson
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I would not confront a person but when you talk to someone wearing an indication of military service it doesn't take much to tell if they actually served.
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SSG Michael Love
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I produce my retirement I.D. at Home Depot to get a 10% discount. That's about it for me.
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MSgt Craig Gauger
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SPC Michael Terrell - That guy must have been a real winner. My 1st base was Homestead AFB in 1977. We had more Army than AF there. We also had Navy and USMC support for the Navy.
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SPC Michael Terrell
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MSgt Craig Gauger - I had my doubts that he had ever served.
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I care, but I care more about the Constitution than my own feelings. We can't say "we're a free country, but you can't say or wear those things because it offends me." I'm just not a fan making laws that ban citizens from wearing certain symbols when there are groups of people offended by those symbols. It sounds contrary to everything we serve for.

Now if people want to expose phonies, I'm all for it. Let them be judged by the public.

When it comes to fraud, there are plenty of existing fraud laws to cover those cases. Those who commit fraud should be prosecuted under fraud laws.
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LCpl Walter Larson
LCpl Walter Larson
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Politicians who lie about service in Vietnam should be beaten savagely. So should the people who vote for them again and again. Semper Fi
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SGT Thomas Fisher
SGT Thomas Fisher
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CSM John Mead - It was sort of strange that you pointed out that others are entitled to their opinion when all I did was simply state mine and not tell others how they should feel. That was sort of exactly what I was doing.
The soup sandwich isn't diminishing anything I did or didn't do while serving. If that person gets laid by someone who doesn't know a soup sandwich from the real thing, so be it. Again, IMO it's really no different than a non-vet actor playing a role and not getting it right.
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SPC Michael Terrell
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CPL (Join to see) - Oprah Gayle loves?
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1LT William Clardy
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I'll have to defer to your greater experience, Sgt Georgia Smith, although I would question how certain you are that your experience demonstrates an actual average and isn't skewed by your own aura of, um... authority! Yeah, authority, that's what I was thinking...
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