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LTC Stephen F.
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Thanks for sharing SGT (Join to see) the wonderful story of US Amy Air Corps B-17 pilot Charles Brown and BF109 pilot Franz Stigler.
Chivalry among aircraft pilots was more common than among the close-combat ground forces which grappled every day in life and death struggles in cities, fields, jungles, islands and deserts.
Image: Luftwaffe pilot Franz Stigler getting out of his Bf 109 in Sicily after returning from Africa
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LTC Stephen F. Great picture! You at so right about those life and death struggles in the ground. The common combat soldier could not afford to be chivalrous.
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LTC Stephen F.
LTC Stephen F.
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GySgt John Olson I am not sure why you down-voted my response.
Chivalry is an ancient military concept. Chivalry is the "combination of qualities expected of an ideal knight, especially courage, honor, courtesy, justice, and a readiness to help the weak."
Respecting your adversary is important in direct and close combat. Underestimating your enemy has led to many massacres.
Chivalry among combat aircraft pilots took place in the Great War on many occasions. It was much less common in WWII - although it occurred in Europe and North Africa against the Germans and Italians but rarely occurred in the far east against the Japanese.
The Soviets and Poles showed no mercy towards the Germans and Hungarians they fought.
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SSgt Robert Marx
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I believe chivalry is also a modern construct whereby men of good will respect the integrity of fellow professionals. It is a mindset of respect for we are all fellow travelers and so it is unwise to pick at every irritant and grow to understand that as brothers we can get along. Our nations might be at war but that does not give license to kill every possible combatant one can. Chivalry became used in Europe as a way to mitigate the ravages of war so it became obligatory for combatants to leave alone women, gardens, and other civilian targets. The medieval practice became weeded out with the development of greater weapons with the ability to kill at greater distance. The Thirty Years War (1618-1648) witnessed a devastation of Germany only bested by World War 2. Even the carnage of WW1 was left to the battlefields for the most part but the ruthlessness to extinguish enemies brought in poison gas, barbed wire, and the mass use of machine guns. The prior wars of the nineteenth century witnessed that artillery gathered up the most kills. The point of this diatribe is that chivalry is about respect. Respect means to not piss (or worse) where you eat.
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SFC Pete Kain
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Incredible story, just that both men survived the war is a miracle.
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SFC Pete Kain It is quite incredible! I am glad they became friends until the end.
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SSG Will Phillips
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Honor among warriors.
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