Posted on Feb 18, 2021
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If the Military as a whole determines to force vaccinate all of our men and women in uniform, how many of you will refuse and separate? 89% of my 135 Soldiers recently refused this unapproved vaccine when offered. That tells me that over half our military servicemembers would stick up the middle finger to Uncle Sam if they were to make this unapproved vaccine mandatory. I already know some of you unconscious, brainwashed folks who get your news from the mainstream media will make comments like "we are already forced to get the flu shot, anthrax, yellow fever etc. so what's the difference?" Save those comments. I want free thinkers to respond.
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Actually two thirds of the Armed Forces have accepted the shot, your 135 Soldiers are outliers.

The shot won't become mandatory until it is FDA approved, with the current fast tracking you'd be looking at probably another year or two at least until that happens, maybe longer. By that point the vaccine will be demonstrated to be safe and effective for several years.

Your 89% declined a voluntary and experimental vaccine. It's not a surprise that a large group would decline to be Guinea pigs, what's surprising is that two thirds of the military is volunteering to take an experimental vaccine. In the future if/when it becomes mandatory it will be a proven vaccine with several years of history behind it. At that point the choice will be to accept a proven vaccine or separate. It's no different than the initial push back from the Anthrax vaccine. Most people aren't going to actually go through with risking their careers on a vaccine that hundreds of millions of other people have taken at that point
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Casey, I am totally familiar with how the CDC works up their vaccine for the flu annually. It is a joke. The argument that 70% is better than 100% is retarded LMAO!
Americans are fooled into believing Viruses. germs, pathogens, etc make them sick. That is the Germ Theory of Disease by Louis Pasteur. Funny that on his death bed his last recorded words were "the microbe is nothing, the terrain is everything". Which points to the Terrain Theory which is what I am other enlightened individuals follow. A healthy immune system is all the protection I need. Too many Americans are fat, dumb and lazy and they just want a pill for everything. Fucking pathetic! I have zero empathy for ignorance when we have literally TONS of information out there on how to eat right, exercise and take care of your vessel in order to live a long healthy life. Getting this vaccine will only shorten your life not protect you from the big bad scary Sars-Covi2 virus.
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1SG Mark Gomez
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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SFC (Join to see) - We are "fooled into believing Viruses. germs, pathogens, etc make [us] sick" because when a doctor is able to figure out the specific pathogen and give us something to combat the pathogen, we get better. We have cold, hard evidence that bacteria can make us sick, and that anti-bacterials can keep make the sickness go away. Of COURSE we believe it - because we see it proven time and time again.
Yes, healthier people fight off infection better (generally speaking). And yes, a large number of Americans have made unhealthy life choices. But... when we look at the hardest hit folks - the ones dying most often, it is the elderly. Yes - this goes to terrain theory in that they have weaker immune systems. But that is EXACTLY WHY we have to use things like vaccines. Unless, of course, your solution is "Fuck 'em. They've already lived long enough." Those who DO have weakened immune systems - for whatever reason - NEED medical solutions to diseases. And when those diseases can be linked to specific pathogens, and we can identify ways to fight, kill, or eradicate those pathogens, then we have an ethical responsibility to do so.

(And, to totally destroy terrain theory in relation to COVID, babies born to mothers WITH COVID are between 2% and 5% likely to contract it. Even when cared for by their infected mother. You know... babies. Those humans that basically have no immune system at all. Children between the ages of 1 and 10 have the lowest hospitalization rate of any age demographic. Kids have weaker immune systems, generally speaking, than adults. So... yeah.. it ain't JUST the immune system.)

I am one of those folks who just doesn't get sick. I have taken exactly ONE sick day in the last 20 years - and it was for a day that I was supposed to have off, but got called in for. And it wasn't even illness it was a kidney stone. I even scheduled passing a kidney stone for a day off! Does that mean that, becausse of terrain theory, I should just go shoot up some COVID live virus? I mean, according to terrain theory, my body can fight it off, no matter what it is, right?

I mean, it's not like NFL Tight ends (who we must assume are in pretty good shape) have their seasons ended due to acute myocarditis as a result of COVID, right? (It happend). Or maybe hospitalized? (yep, that,too) Or 49 year old former collegiate sport standout turned cops die of it, right? (Yep) Or college football athletes are dying, right? (This one, too). (I originally included the names, but on second reading that was disrespectful to the afflicted, so they have been removed - but it is public record and you can easily figure out who the folks are).

These healthy folks - and they are only a small sampling chosen because their relative health is easy to be assumed - still got COVID, and still had serious effects, even death for a couple. You can talk about terrain all you want. But it ain't the immune system striking these folks down, it's the pathogen.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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SFC (Join to see) the annual flu vax is meant to keep you sick at home, not sick in the hospital hogging up bed space.
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Well most vaccinations can be exempted due to religious reasons. However, i don’t mind the other vaccinations because I’ve been receiving them on a regular basis for over the past decade. I am refusing the COVID vaccine for refusal to continue being an FDA test dummy, the potential implications this would impose on my wife if something were to go wrong having three children and one special needs child, and general mistrust in drug companies. Had COVID once, wasn’t that bad. I’m not fat nor do I have underlying health conditions, so this vaccine does nothing for me and with the way the majority of the the American population has been this past decade, they don’t deserve any more sacrifice on any of our behalf beyond fighting conflicts. That’s just my opinion. Besides, with The Feres doctrine my family can’t do anything if something went wrong.
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Awakened One! Thank you Gunny. Oorah!
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SSG Intel Nco
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Huzzah! A man that knows about religious exemptions!
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Cpl Vic Burk
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I am with you on this one GySgt Dawson Webb. No vaccine for me either.
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So you want an echo chamber? I will eagerly wait for the "awakened" to speak.
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1SG Mark Gomez
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SFC (Join to see) I retired at 20 years so I can tend to my autistic son who will be living with me until I am no longer able to care for him. I think once the vaccine is FDA approved, SM's will have to get the shot. Right now, they have the choice as far as I know.
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1SG Mark Gomez - You are correct Mark. As mentioned in previous comments by others, this unapproved Vaccine is not mandatory and most likely cannot be made so without FDA approval. However, do you trust anything these alphabet agencies say? They are absolutely riddled with corruption at the highest levels. Look at the Muller Investigation, the FBI took a bloody nose on that one. CIA, FDA, CDC, USDA, etc, all corrupt. This entire thing was a lie fabricated to cause fear. There are organizations around the world and in our great country that are mandating this death serum unapproved vaccine aka gene therapy to their employees. Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci wanted 70% of the country vaccinated for "heard immunity". Look brother, the bottom line is we don't force vaccinate humans to allegedly protect them from a virus that has a mortality rate of less than 0.1%. Those who have agreed to it have been misinformed.
I wish you all the best with your son Mark.
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MSgt Ed Larson
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By the time the FDA approves this vaccine the virus will be gone and it will all be a futile effort getting service members to comply.
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SFC (Join to see) - Did you not notice the "R" next to his name?
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