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Getting out after 5 months because you sprained your ankle and got depressed doesn't make you a veteran. Further, it's a slap in the face to people who have done amazing things to earn that title. So no, your coworker is not a Veteran. She's a quitter.
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PO3 Kenneth Suvanto
PO3 Kenneth Suvanto
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha - Danielle Ma'am, you don't even deserve respect from me whatsoever...You have truly lost it...seek psychotherapy ASAP! You made me go thru this post several times. looking to see where I called anyone a NAME. Plus, I'm a stupid Trump Supporter silly. I simply stated we don't know enough information on the subject person to make any kind of decision on what they are...You may be on crack, or some other kind of stupid drug, to be calling people names like you are doing...your truly a sick individual and need help immediately. Are you some kind of snowflake? I do know you are deranged at this point...enough of your nonsense already...Please listen to me and check yourself into the VA...IF your a veteran of course lol.
Sincerely Ken
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PO3 Kenneth Suvanto
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha - Another thing, why are you a disabled veteran? I suppose you won't answer that...
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
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PO3 Kenneth Suvanto - yeah, right, fascist, as you accuse me of crimes I have never committed. I... unlike Trump... don't accept your allegations... period.
Democratic National Socialist Dictators made a claim that I had mental problems years ago, and I was sent to a psychotherapist. End Result: It's not me... I am well grounded in reality... it's those who demand I, a free thinking person, must bow to the demands of nobodies, that need therapy.
YOU GO SEE A PSYCHOTHERAPIST, MR. DICTATOR FASCIST.
Meanwhile.... you claim to support Trump... while acting like a DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL SOCIALIST FASCIST DICTATOR.
When you figure out that I have the free right as a Citizen of the United States of America to "publish" the TRUTH under my 1st Amendment Right AS A CITIZEN OF THIS NATION...
--> AS DETAILED IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THE LAWS MADE TO COMPLY...
YOU OWE ME AN APOLOGY >(
Until then... kindly keep your Nazi face OUT OF MY FACE>(

Read the Law you swore to protect and defend before you ATTACK ME, for speaking the TRUTH, with direct quotes from those laws >(

for everyone else... my "rage and anger"... are directed at the stupid people who allow their Servants to dictate outside that Law, to take what belongs to, AND ONLY TO, we the people of the U.S. ...
OUR JOBS, OUR LIVES, OUR LIBERTY, AND OUR FREE RIGHT TO PERSUE HAPPINESS.

THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY RIGHT UNDER ANY U.S. LAW TO LEGISLATE OUR PROSPERTY OUT FROM UNDER U.S. IN FAVOR OF OUR ENEMIES...

THAT IS HIGH TREASON...PUNISHABLE BY HANGING FROM THE NECK UNTIL DEAD.

KEEP CHEERING FOR OPPRESSION BY YOUR PUBLIC SERVANTS... AS THEY LEAD CRIMINALS AGAINST THEIR OWN CONSTITUENTS, DENYING THEM POLICE PROTECTION... WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO FIRE THEM, SO RE-ELECT THEM, AS YOU OPPRESS YOUR FELLOW U.S. PATRIOT CITIZENS INTO SLAVERY TO YOUR ENEMIES... BY DICTATOR LAW.

Trump Impeachment... Democratic Impeachers:" CHINA... IS ... THE ENEMY!!!"
and yet... they are legislating our jobs to China?

YOU VOTED FOR IT... YOU GOT IT.
KEEP BEING FASCISTS AS FASCISM CRUSHES OUR ONCE FREE NATION...
AT YOUR COMMAND.
--> FOR OUR ENEMIES... AS THEY SCREAM THAT THOSE ARE INDEED OUR ENEMIES THEY ARE GIFTING OUR BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY TO!!!
MORONS.
--> AND THEY GET RE-ELECTED?
YOU VOTED TO BE CRUSHED IN EXACTLY THE SAME MANNER AS NIKITA KRUSHCHEV PROMISED... "WITHOUT A SHOT BEING FIRED... FROM WITHIN!"

JOIN TOGETHER AGAINST OUR TRAITORS...
--> INSTEAD OF ASSUALTING YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS WITH THE FIRST AMENDMENT EXCUSE OF "ASSEMBLING PEACABLY", TO "PETITION YOUR GOVERNMENT FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES" BY RIOT, RAPE, ROB, MURDER, AND DESTRUTION OF THE PROPERTY OF YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS, WITH GUNS, KNIVES, CLUBS, MACE, AND HATE HATE HATE ...
--> OR ACCEPT YOUR SLAVERY... AS YOU VOTED FOR IT.
... wait... listen to what they are promising... wait for it... January 21... you WILL see REALITY...Open Borders to the World... all immigration restrictions lifted... ne need to be U.S. to enjoy our Blessings... PAID FOR BY WE THE PEOPLE... even the right to vote against our desires.
Riches for the rich, as the last of our precious jobs are transferred to the enemies of our Nation, as we the people... currently... 210 million U.S. jobs lost to Trade Deals... 210 Million Heads of House, and homeless... BY LAWS OF HIGH TREASON.
Adolf Hitler resolved the problem by exterminating the impoverished and elderly, and disabled... AND POLITICAL DISSENTERS SUCH AS MYSELF... "Holocaust timeline" ... Hitler's Rise to Power"... LOOK IT UP.
IT'S HAPPENING HERE... NOW... AND YOU VOTED FOR IT.
Yes... I expect the Nazis will be at my door by February, to ship me to Dachau...
For being a political dissident PATRIOT, a senior citizen PATRIOT, and impoverished by age PATRIOT.
DUTY - HONOR - COUNTRY...
DOES NOT END WITH MY SERVICE IN UNIFORM...
IT FOLLOWS ME ALL THE DAYS OF MY LIFE...
AND I LAUGH AT THE FOOLS WHO FREELY GAVE UP THEIR FREEDOM IN FAVOR OF NAZI FASCISM...
IN THE LAST DAYS OF MY FREE LIFE!!!
What you do to yourselves, and your children, does not matter to me...
--> Thanks to fascism, I am the last living member of my over 2000 year old family...
You have been warned... you choose to remain in your cloud with your rainbows and kittens and ignore reality... it WILL bite you in the #$$.
You have less that 2 months to READ the Law you threw into the trash, before Nazi Law falls like a hammer on your heads.
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
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You think they won't throw the Constitution onto the trash?
--> THEY PROMISED DURING THE AMY CONEY-BARRETT CONFIRMATION THAT THE CONSTITUTION IS OVERRULED BY THEIR DICTATED PRECEDENTS!!!
Watch and see what that means.
Don't cry when you see coal bucket helmets and Jackboots patrolling the streets with long rifles and fixed bayonets...
YOU VOTED FOR IT !!!!
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PO1 Phillip Weekley
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I served five years in recruiting and I remember in our recruiting manual stating that you must have completed 180 days of consecutive service to be considered a veteran.
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SSgt Richard Rutledge
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Sgt Neil Foster - The main problem here is that there are a LOT of assumptions being made. NOBODY knows if this person was in the Army, USMC, USAF, USCG, Reserves, or Guard. We do not know if this person was put out due to mental or medical problems or if she were dishonorably discharged due to behavioral problems or enlistment fraud. We are making a TON of assumptions based on the story given...then we have other people who cannot even follow the story line, let alone make astute observations about the question at hand. The real answer lies within a comprehensive review of 38 U.S. Code § 101 - Definitions:
Sub paragraph 2 states: The term “veteran” means a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service, and who was discharged or released therefrom under conditions other than dishonorable.
**The key to this is understanding what "ACTIVE" means. Does this mean Guard cannot be considered vets? NO. Sub paragraph 24 states:
The term “active military, naval, or air service” includes—
(A) active duty;
(B) any period of active duty for training during which the individual concerned was disabled or died from a disease or injury incurred or aggravated in line of duty; and
(C) any period of inactive duty training during which the individual concerned was disabled or died—
(i) from an injury incurred or aggravated in line of duty; or
(ii) from an acute myocardial infarction, a cardiac arrest, or a cerebrovascular accident occurring during such training.
**NOTICE--discharge due to disciplinary problems is not included, nor are a lot of other cases--so with the very little information that we TRULY have surrounding the original question, there IS NO DEFINITIVE WAY to say she is or is not a VET. To definitively go either way without knowing all of the facts is to show EXTREME ignorance.
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Sgt Neil Foster
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SSgt Richard Rutledge - I agree... we don't know squat about the individual
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PO3 Kenneth Suvanto
PO3 Kenneth Suvanto
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Like I was saying, we simply don't know enough about the circumstances but, I said, they shouldn't go around telling people they are a Veteran and I'm sticking to that argumenbt so there...Sincerely, Ken
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SSG James Stodola
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I didn't serve in recruiting but I think that 180 days requirement is for combat zone designation..
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SFC George Sease
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I would have to say that the person in question cannot be considered a veteran. 1. Did not finish training (AIT), 2. did not get assigned to a unit that was not a training unit . 3. Was not in a combat zone, 4. More than likely did not receive the National Defense Ribbon, 5. Did not receive a ribbon for the Cold War, 6. Their DD214 should be able to answer some interesting questions-like why did they not stay in.
I would have to say that nope. Sparky does not get to be called a veteran.
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SSgt Richard Rutledge
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SFC Sease--There were many a great man (probably far greater than any 3 people you know combined) who served between 1975 and 1992 who never had the opportunity to get #3, #4, or #5 out of your list. Please keep your arrogance out of the facts.
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MSG Richard Medina
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SSgt Richard Rutledge I stand corrected. I just veiwed one of my pictures taken in 1985 while stationed in Germany. I only had the ASR(Army Service Ribbon)and AAM(Army Achievement Medal) on my uniform. So I probably was Authorized to the NDSM during the time I was stationed in Korea 1990-91. Long time ago. I retired in 2012.
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SSgt Richard Rutledge
SSgt Richard Rutledge
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MSG Richard Medina - Thank you for your service.
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SGT Dan Wirtz
SGT Dan Wirtz
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Cold War Ribbon? I was in from '83-'93, there was no "Cold War" ribbon, I Was Stationed in W.Germany, the front line of the "Cold War". We had terrorists trying to blow up our bases, sometimes they succeeded by killing my friend to get his Green Card, so they cold get a car bomb onto Rhein-Main Airbase. He did not get a "Cold War" Ribbon. He barely got a footnote in a newspaper. Your metric is serving in a "Combat zone"? Then only 10 -20 percent of those who ever served would be considered veterans. SFC Sease all due respect you are flat out wrong.
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