Posted on Nov 30, 2016
Advocacy Group Calls On Obama To Pardon Post-9/11 Vets With ‘Bad-Paper’ Discharges
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Vets taking care of vets. Although it's Vietnam Veterans Of America, they like myself, want to help the Veterans of today as much as possible. If Obama wants to leave a good legacy, this is one way to do it. We'll see how much he cares for the Military, if this happens.
Vietnam Veterans of America is calling on President Obama to pardon veterans with bad-paper discharges if they were issued without a court martial.
The veteran service organization, Vietnam Veterans of America, penned an open letter to President Barack Obama and President-elect Donald Trump, calling on the former to pardon all post-9/11 veterans who were discharged under less-than-honorable conditions without the due process of a court-martial.
Vietnam Veterans of America is calling on President Obama to pardon veterans with bad-paper discharges if they were issued without a court martial.
The veteran service organization, Vietnam Veterans of America, penned an open letter to President Barack Obama and President-elect Donald Trump, calling on the former to pardon all post-9/11 veterans who were discharged under less-than-honorable conditions without the due process of a court-martial.
Advocacy Group Calls On Obama To Pardon Post-9/11 Vets With ‘Bad-Paper’ Discharges
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Barack Obama
9/11
Posted >1 y ago
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This is a horrible idea. If this were to occur, there would be an enormous amount of people that were discharged, for good reason, that would now be eligible for the same benefits as service members who completed honorable tours of service. There is an appeal process for those who feel they have been wronged, which can be utilized, to get their status changed. Blanket over turning by the President would undermine the decisions of those leaders who approved these discharges. It would further solidify that Obama's ignorant of the military and prove his discontent toward the services. Over turning these types of discharges would tarnish his legacy even further. This is my opinion on this.
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Would it depend on why they were given a LTH, 1SG (Join to see)? If they were discharged because they were seeking help for PTSD or TBI, shouldn't they be pardoned and get the help they need? I'm just asking. You know more about the Military legal aspect than I do.
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SGM Erik Marquez
SGT (Join to see) - IMHO still a bad idea to blanket pardon based on a date range
Put together a committee with the sole focus of revisiting OTH discharges made without trial ...perhaps
But even still, I know personally 5 SM that departed service with a OTH and no CM, and it was only for the good of the service that avenue was made vice General CM. It most definietly was not a disservice to the SM, or an overreach of leadership.
If blanket pardons are given and these 5 are included you will see me on a national public level fighting it and making many lives very difficult. I will be crucified public ally and any dirt anyone can find, imply or fake will be trotted out against me.... so be it
Put together a committee with the sole focus of revisiting OTH discharges made without trial ...perhaps
But even still, I know personally 5 SM that departed service with a OTH and no CM, and it was only for the good of the service that avenue was made vice General CM. It most definietly was not a disservice to the SM, or an overreach of leadership.
If blanket pardons are given and these 5 are included you will see me on a national public level fighting it and making many lives very difficult. I will be crucified public ally and any dirt anyone can find, imply or fake will be trotted out against me.... so be it
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SGM Erik Marquez - Nobody that didn't serve honorably should not be considered.Imunderstand where you're coming from now, and I agree. I do understand about the rage that will ensue if those five are included, if it happens at all. I've been trying to get some interest in three murders, for 20 years, I witnessed in Detroit in 1967. I don't care what happens either. Thank you for your response.
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1SG Dennis Hicks
The problem with blanket solutions is you get the bad with the good, I don't support this at all.
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If you are unhappy with your discharge, and feel you were wronged, appeal your discharge and see what happens. its bureaucratically slow, and takes time, but it does happen here and there. Don't tarnish the service of those who are honorably serving, and have served in the past. I see actions come across my desk all the time for stupid crap that led to patterns of misconduct. It's too easy to be a soldier, if it's not for you, finish your contract and get out clean. If this happened, that guy who smoked dope, and got 3 DUI's in 1 weekend, and stopped showing up to work, gets to use his GI to go back to school, which is not fair to the Soldier/Leader who busted his ass until he couldn't take it anymore and got out or retired/SERB'd.
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This sounds very much like the blanket pardon to those who decided to run to Canada in the 60's rather than go to Viet Nam. I was against it then and am against it now!!!
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There's not much difference MSgt Ken Flood. I think Carter screwed the pooch on that. They were criminals and should have been treated as such.
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