Posted on Oct 13, 2017
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It's 1800 and you just get off work. You let your subordinates go at 1600. You text them reminding them of a personnel inspection tomorrow morning. Your E4 tells you that they "don't need to deal with you outside of working hours" and not to "contact them outside of 0600-1600".

How do you handle this?
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SCPO Jason McLaughlin
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This seems like a perfect opportunity for 8 hours of EMI (Extra Military Instruction). I do believe that mustering with the OOD at 1700, 1800, 1900, 2000, 2100, and 2145 (right before taps), in a different uniform, for 4 days straight, might teach the individual what defines working hours, and proper interaction with seniors.
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MSG Senior Irregular Warfare Analyst Geospatial Senior
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SCPO Jason McLaughlin Sure, but id still like to find out what is going on with them before crushing their nuts.
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Amn Still Photography
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wonder why the military has a fucking suicide problem
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SCPO Jason McLaughlin
SCPO Jason McLaughlin
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Amn (Join to see) - I'm sure the problem has everything to do with my suggestion, and nothing to do with the current 18 year conflict, and the misunderstanding of PTSD. If the thought of doing a "fashion show" for being disrespectful, in any way causes you to be suicidal, may I suggest that you immediately inform your COC so you can receive the help you need. I would do it myself, unfortunately your profile is very austere.
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CPL M Miller
CPL M Miller
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MSG (Join to see) - plenty of time for that at 1700,1800,1900,2000, then at 2100 ask what can be done in the future to insure this behavior will NEVER happen again. Then at 2145. be sure it is understood and why we render salutes at TAPS. At every hr. inspection have a 15 min speech ready to read while inspecting as part of the training. ( or have them read it to you while inspecting them, reminding them of the error of their ways and the regulations pertaining to such)
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SFC Counterintelligence (CI) Agent
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I'd respond to this, but then words like "premeditated" would start getting thrown around in court.
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LCpl Darrell J. Farley Jr.
LCpl Darrell J. Farley Jr.
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LCpl Steve Smith they’ve obviously never been on a Marine Base!!!
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LCpl Darrell J. Farley Jr.
LCpl Darrell J. Farley Jr.
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MSG GregoryT Majewski in my day we would have been given membership to the 6-9 Club, scrubbing the Ladder Wells and the Head with a toothbrush!
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SGT Lee McLean
SGT Lee McLean
3 mo
You’re my kinda NCO
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LCpl Freedom A.
LCpl Freedom A.
3 mo
YES PREMEDITATED MURDER, OR YOU CAN DO HIM LIKE JACK NICHOLSON GIVE HIM A "CODE RED", OR SINCE WHITE NATIONALISTS GROUPS OR PART OF MY OUTSTANDING MILITARY MORE SPECIFICALLY MY COURAGEOUS MARINE CORPS, THEY CAN BE FOUND HANGING SUPICIOUSLY FROM STARBOARD!!!! tHAT WILL TEACH THEM TO RESPOND TO A TEXT MESSAGE WITH SO LITTLE DISREGARD TO YOUR ELITE OFFICIAL STATUS.
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I would put them on duty from 0400-0000 to see how they like those working hours.
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SGT Mary Martel
SGT Mary Martel
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SPC Timothy Coleman - It has nothing to do with delighting in making a subordinate miserable (unless said subordinate doesn't act like they should be in the military-ie. telling your superior not to contact you outside of duty hours.) I'm not sure where your BCT/AIT was at, but we were told from the beginning that we were Soldiers 24/7 and sometimes we might have to work 24/7. Not to mention, the biggest no-no in my book is this subordinate telling their supervisor not to contact them outside of duty hours...ummm, excuse me?!?!?! Who tf do they think are? Since they are obviously mistaken, it would be my job as the supervisor to let them know exactly what their place in the hierarchy is. Also, that e4 was rude af in responding to the supervisor. Another big no-no.
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SPC Timothy Coleman
SPC Timothy Coleman
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I completely understand that when you are in the Military, you are in 24/7. I have absolutely no disagreement with that. I was making a point about how sadistic and gleeful some the the Officers and NOCs seemed to be in delighting in dressing down their subordinates. That has always seemed totally Unprofessional to me and to my experience. As for me being a young man, Thank you. I was born in 1970, and am a Veteran of the Pesian Gulf War, with a Masters Degree in Media Management. I even held a TS/SCi Clearance or a while... Even though I left The Army as a Specialist in 1998. Interesting, when conversing here, how people assume you are a Young man, i.e. "Cihlld" , when you have left the Military as a Lower Enlisted.... Just Saying...
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SFC Scott Higgins
SFC Scott Higgins
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SPC Timothy Coleman - You are correct. some do delight in harassing juniors that should not be the norm. In the original question though, why would the subordinate not want to know about an upcoming inspection and respond in such a fashion. It is disrespectful as I feel in this instance the NCO was trying to help, not harass the subordinate. I would probably have a discussion with that particular individual and let them know that the service is voluntary and they are committed to any duty assigned. If that didn't work, then extra training would be required and if necessary disciplinary action - but only as a last resort.
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SSG David Stafne
SSG David Stafne
2 mo
What part of “being a Soldier 24/7” doesn’t he understand? Hell, I worked as the BN Intel NCO when I was discharged, the BN Command Staff was contacting me 3 months after Discharge and my S-2 over 6 months after Discharge. I never missed a call or failed to return a call!
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