Posted on Oct 13, 2017
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It's 1800 and you just get off work. You let your subordinates go at 1600. You text them reminding them of a personnel inspection tomorrow morning. Your E4 tells you that they "don't need to deal with you outside of working hours" and not to "contact them outside of 0600-1600".

How do you handle this?
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SCPO Jason McLaughlin
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This seems like a perfect opportunity for 8 hours of EMI (Extra Military Instruction). I do believe that mustering with the OOD at 1700, 1800, 1900, 2000, 2100, and 2145 (right before taps), in a different uniform, for 4 days straight, might teach the individual what defines working hours, and proper interaction with seniors.
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CW4 John Wheatley
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CW4 John Wheatley
CW4 John Wheatley
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CW4 John Wheatley - Thank you for your reply, It,s a different time now than when I was on active duty. So called troop would be living in a shelter half in front of the barracks for at least 2 weeks and reporting to the staff duty nco every 30 minutes in a different uniform after normal duty hours until 2300 hours . I am familiar with this type of corrective training because I endured it when I was a young and Know it all jack ass. Only did it once though.
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SCPO Jason McLaughlin
SCPO Jason McLaughlin
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CW4 John Wheatley - My young know-it-all, rules don't apply to me days cost me around $1500 and 60 days of restriction (two 30 day awards, because I was exceptionally hard-headed). Thankfully, I didn't come up in a zero defect Navy. There is no way that I would have been allowed to reenlist after my first term in today's Navy.
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CDR Ron Miller
CDR Ron Miller
1 mo
In the days before cell phones, wives often answered when the Duty Office initiated a recall to individuals not on standby . . . . 'He's not at home' was common, as was 'he's drunk' - if he was not on standby status. But discussions with the individual sailor, as commented on above, usually was all that was necessary to convince the individual that they needed to have a serious talk with their spouse. Virtually all of the time the individual was 'able and available' were it not for the wife answering the phone - and of course sometimes they really were 'out & about' or drunk! Naturally, those on standby always responded ASAP without question.
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SFC Detachment Sergeant/First Sergeant
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I'd respond to this, but then words like "premeditated" would start getting thrown around in court.
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SSG Dave Johnston
SSG Dave Johnston
5 mo
CPL Steve Freeman - Nope, it's 'String Theory', The 'quark' string, on a supervisors "big toe" passes through the subordinates mass and is grasped firmly by the supervisors cortex, allowing it to be jerked; hard. That creates a physical mass that contacts the subordinates 3rd point of contact creating a stimulant. The subordinate should respond to the stimulant with "Yes, Sargent" or "Sir". Properly applied, the subordinate should comprehend that 24/7 is the correct response to anything military until they're a civilian
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CPL Steve Freeman
CPL Steve Freeman
5 mo
SSG Dave Johnston well sir, I stand corrected. Lol
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SFC Robert Walton
SFC Robert Walton
2 mo
SFC (Join to see) - HAHAHAHAHA.
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1SG Larry Peebles
1SG Larry Peebles
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After my laughing stopped, I would ask him to repeat what he said, but I would ask the CO or XO to step into my office for some comedic relief. I would let this soldier know that he has made it known that he considers his job to be an 8-5 office job and nothing more. And should he not respond appropriately to an "after duty hours call" IAW unit SOP, he would find his butt in a sling as would everyone else (pending circumstances.) It's quite obvious that he is trying to get over on the system, or pull a bad joke on his chain of command/support or looking for a way to get an early out. I would also have his immediate supervisor counsel him, just to have it in writing for future use. Ah, so many ways to deal with this guy.
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I would put them on duty from 0400-0000 to see how they like those working hours.
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SPC Timothy Coleman
SPC Timothy Coleman
3 mo
And what would that accomplish?
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SFC Robert Walton
SFC Robert Walton
2 mo
SGT Amy Tribou - Training is your Job you should not pass your Job on to some one else especially if you want it done right.
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SGT Amy Tribou
SGT Amy Tribou
2 mo
SFC Robert Walton well, when I was in, that was called EXTRA DUTY, and it was under someone else's supervision. Then during so called "working" hours I would make sure the Army got their money's worth.
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SFC Robert Walton
SFC Robert Walton
2 mo
Well I don't know when you were in and maybe things have changed but EXTRA DUTY was applied in conjunction with UCMJ actions not assigned by NCO's required and officer to Impose. EXTRA TRAINING was imposed by NCO's and managed by the NCO assigning the EXTRA TRAINING.
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