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Donald Trump
Donald Trump
Posted on Jan 25, 2018
The Courts order the arrest of the President. He orders the Marines to resist. What do you do?
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In real terms this is a non-issue.
POTUS is the senior law enforcement officer in the US. In order for him or her to be arrested, they must first be impeached, then convicted by the Senate and the sentence has to be removal from office. At that point he or she is no longer the President and any law officer may arrest him or her.
That being said, Constitutionally, there is only one person who has the authority to arrest the President -- the Sergeant at Arms of the US Senate -- who has authority to arrest anyone who violates the rules of the Senate. But that would only be for violation of the rules and the only action allowable would be ejection from the chamber.
If any member of the United States Armed Forces attempted to arrest a sitting president, it would be an act of treason, as the President, by virtue of the office, represents the people of the United States.
Likewise, any judge issuing an arrest warrant for POTUS would be in violation of the separation of powers under the Constitution and would be vulnerable to impeachment proceedings. They would also be commiting treason (for the same reason) and the order would not be lawful.
In the event of any such action our duty is clear. Protect the President -- even if you don't like him or her.
This is of course a moot point if the Vice President and the cabinet have determined POTUS incapable under provisions of the 25th Amendment.
POTUS is the senior law enforcement officer in the US. In order for him or her to be arrested, they must first be impeached, then convicted by the Senate and the sentence has to be removal from office. At that point he or she is no longer the President and any law officer may arrest him or her.
That being said, Constitutionally, there is only one person who has the authority to arrest the President -- the Sergeant at Arms of the US Senate -- who has authority to arrest anyone who violates the rules of the Senate. But that would only be for violation of the rules and the only action allowable would be ejection from the chamber.
If any member of the United States Armed Forces attempted to arrest a sitting president, it would be an act of treason, as the President, by virtue of the office, represents the people of the United States.
Likewise, any judge issuing an arrest warrant for POTUS would be in violation of the separation of powers under the Constitution and would be vulnerable to impeachment proceedings. They would also be commiting treason (for the same reason) and the order would not be lawful.
In the event of any such action our duty is clear. Protect the President -- even if you don't like him or her.
This is of course a moot point if the Vice President and the cabinet have determined POTUS incapable under provisions of the 25th Amendment.
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LTC George Adams
The Senate failed to convict Andrew Johnson by a single vote. From Wikipedia: "The House approved the articles of impeachment on March 2–3, 1868, and forwarded them to the Senate. The trial in the Senate began three days later, with Chief Justice of the United States Salmon P. Chase presiding. On May 16, the Senate failed to convict Johnson on one of the articles, with the 35–19 vote in favor of conviction falling short of the necessary two-thirds majority by a single vote. A ten-day recess was called before attempting to convict him on additional articles. The delay did not change the outcome, however, as on May 26, it failed to convict the President on two articles, both by the same margin; after which the trial was adjourned."
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CPT Lawrence Cable
SSG Edward Tilton - No, the Attorney General works directly for and at the Pleasure of the President. The US Marshall Service and FBI answer to the DOJ. I know of no way to charge a sitting president with a crime without first impeaching and convicting him in the Senate. At that point, he could be charged with a crime.
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PO3 John Bird
So there isn't anyone who can arrest a sitting President who stole an election and forcing this nation into the NWO by opening our borders, mandating Covid injections that have been proven to have as many negative results as positive, shutting down our gas wells, good paying jobs, allowing thugs to burn down Portland and Seattle among other cities, and the list goes on. If he were a virus, this virus must be removed or killed within the body or the body will succumb to it's threats. Biden does not speak for the people of the United States of America and the demoRats are successfully destroying this nation without a shot being fired. It's time the people take back this nation and stop the nonsense our politicians, globalists, and elitists are doing before they totally destroy this nation.
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SSG Dale London
Not in practical terms, no. The Supreme Court does not issue bench warrants and that is the only court with oversight of the office of President. There are only three remedies for a rogue POTUS: 1 - an act of God; 2 - being removed under the 25th Amendment; and 3 - Impeachment followed by conviction in the Senate and expulsion from office.
If you are keen to see the back of any elected official, lean hard on your local government and ensure the election machinery is working the way it should. Then encourage everyone you know to vote -- and don't forget to do it yourself.
If you are keen to see the back of any elected official, lean hard on your local government and ensure the election machinery is working the way it should. Then encourage everyone you know to vote -- and don't forget to do it yourself.
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This situation is not going to come about. I have enjoyed RallyPoint the last couple of months because the political posts have had a sharp reduction. Politics is a divisive topic that I would like to see banned from RallyPoint. We are at our best, when we are assisting our fellow brothers and sisters, either active duty, veterans, or the men and women that are potential recruits.
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Sgt Charles Welling
Unfortunately, posts on this site, posts from other sites, news and political rhetoric show that America is already greatly divided. It would appear, no, it is certain that the left in this country wants an America not in the constitution and not in the vision of the founders. Wishing for unity or opposing the posting of political opinions is not going to change that. As I took an oath to defend the constitution and as I clearly see that the constitution is under attack more strongly than ever and as I can clearly see the governance of authoritarian leftists is a disaster, I have to face the reality of the present, realize we are in danger from within and take a stand with the constitution and that means against those that subvert it. If posting that here clarifies anything for those who may not be watching as closely or may simply be confused, then so be it. As such, I also disagree with you and I am already aware that you don't care. I do care, I care about America, the constitution and the Marines that, in case you are unaware, have been damaged greatly by the left in this nation. Oppressing opinions is the work of the left, I don't follow those orders.
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CWO3 (Join to see)
Sgt Charles Welling - I for one who is a disabled combat veteran, retired Marine CWO3, former Gunny don’t give a heck about the current president or any of our politicians for that matter. Everyone has their own opinions and I respect that, but two things we don’t ever discuss and that is politics and religion. No matter what, you will never win in either case. As for the questions on RallyPoint some of them are just redundant and stupid. I don’t know about you but everyone in my family served this Nation. My father, My F-I-L, all my Uncles, my wife and so on. We serve because it’s in our blood. What say you Sgt Charles Welling?
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Cpl Bob Cloninger
In the sense you've used it, the chief law enforcement officer is the attorney general, but even they are unable to issue a warrant for arrest. They can request a warrant, but it must still be signed by a judge before it can be executed. It's a deliberately cumbersome process.
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What are we talking about here? politically ordered arrest? if so that's a coup..... Your hypothetical question isn't worth diving too far down the rabbit hole for.
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not gonna lie, I liked the chicken ala king my father used to bring home from the field.... and the fruit cake.....
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Maj John Bell - I do enjoy how this silly conversation has turned into a serious MRE discussion......
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SSG Dale London
Maj John Bell - That happened to me at Ft Jackson in 1980. I ate it anyway - and smoked the cigarettes too!
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Maj John Bell
SSG Dale London - I don't smoke but my Plt Sgt did. He wouldn't light up the three pack of lucky strikes. He said he liked his nose hairs to much.
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