Posted on May 11, 2017
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CPT Jacob Swartout
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SSG (Join to see) I'm the OPS Officer in a RCTG BN. Our recruiters administer the OPAT at their centers about 1-2 times per month to all recruits going RA or USAR. We had to send about 12 to Ft Benning, GA to learn how to properly conduct the OPAT in order to start using it as a mandatory pre-enlistment tool to qualify for multiple MOS's. You could contact your local Army Recruiting Center to ask if they would bring you in to complete the OPAT. This isn't done at any MEPS since they don't have the manpower to conduct the test. What we do is combine centers at times to hold the OPAT for groups of 30-40 and consolidate NCOs to run the program. Our BN also has done the OPAT for just one recruit given circumstances are justified. Do understand that the OPAT determines what MOS you will be eligible for. You must meet set criteria to be considered for certain MOS's when you to the OPAT events.

Example if you can't complete a certain number of deadlifts, then you won't be able to qualify for some MOS's that require some with more physical abilities. Same goes with the other events that time you or measure how far you can throw a ball, etc. Your best option is to simply contact the nearest recruiting office. Hope this helps answer your question.
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SSG Combat Medic
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Would Retention/Re-enlistment Centers have this same capability to administer the OPAT?
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Recruiting stations in the area are on-board and willing to administer the OPAT to Army Reserve Soldiers applying for MOS re-class. Pleasantly surprised. Seems like it is easier to simply do one-sies and two-sies at the recruiting station during normal business/operational hours, as a group takes a more coordinated effort to get graders and participants to show up at a post gym on a weekend.
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CPT Jacob Swartout
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SSG (Join to see) - Likely not at the retention office since they do not have the equipment and usually their is one or two NCOs working at them. USAREC fielded each Recruiting Center with the authorized equipment and materials required for the OPAT. Also, keep in mind, the individuals running the OPAT program have to be certified.
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CPT Jacob Swartout
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SSG (Join to see) - At times they do just a handful and it seems they might have to do this more often for shippers. Each shipper has to have one done 90 days or earlier prior to leaving for BCT.
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SSG Combat Medic
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This if for the purposes of MOS transfers. OPAT is now a requirement for applicants for MOS transfer.
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Your best bet would be to check with a local Recruiting office. As of now, it is a unit responsibility, but the Army Reserve has not fielded an OPAT testing sets to units yet. A stop gap measure is for the units to reach out to local recruiting stations and coordinate for Soldiers to have the OPAT administered. Have you already been scheduled for a class date?
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Thank you the response, SGM Curry. No class date scheduled, as this is for purposes of application packet requirements for 17C reclass for myself and other applicants of my Battalion.
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OK, keep in mind the OPAT needs to be completed within 1 year of attending the school. If for whatever reason, there is a delay in attending the school that makes the OPAT older than 1 year, it will have to be retaken. This is one of the reasons used to make it a unit responsibility. I know a few people involved with recruiting 17Cs for the USAR, email me at [login to see] and I can probably get you some additional info.
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SGT Edward Wilcox
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Why are you asking? If you are not changing MOS's, then you have no requirement to take the test. Why subject yourself to something that would be meaningless?
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SSG Lyle O'Rorke
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SSG Morris- you really need to not let your rank go to your head. This is an Internet forum and SGT Wilcox was providing an answer. Your the type of "leader" that drives people out of the military. Don't let your rank go to you head man.
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SSG Combat Medic
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It is about professionalism and common respect and courtesy. Or maybe you like lower-enlisted mouthing off to you and disregarding orders.
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Online Conduct of Members of the Army Team

As members of the world's premier fighting force, our Army Values demand that we treat others with dignity and respect. Recent misconduct on social media has deeply affected our military community. Online misconduct reflects poorly on our Army Values and the Army Profession. Members of the Army Family - Soldiers and Civilians - are expected to uphold the Army Values, on and off duty - at the motor pool, office, or gym; at home; and in combat.

We are all figures of public trust and our conduct must be exemplary. Standing shoulder-to-shoulder with fellow Soldiers from reception stations through basic training, AIT, and combat deployments builds trust that is forever weakened or erased when a fellow Soldier is victimized by disparaging and degrading comments made in person or posted on social media. The assumption of anonymity on social media is false. Active participation and passive tolerance of online misconduct are equally destructive to the foundational trust essential to our ability to decisively fight and win the Nation's wars.

Commanders and leaders will reinforce a positive command climate free of misconduct, or the appearance of condoning misconduct. We expect Soldiers and Civilians to adhere to AR 600-20, Army Command Policy, and the Army's Online Conduct Policy, which together state that harassment, bullying, hazing, stalking, discrimination, retaliation, or any other type of misconduct are contrary to Army Values.

We expect leaders and influencers from the squad level up to talk about and demonstrate what respect looks like at work, at home, and online. Make it clear that behavior and actions that are not consistent with our Army Values will not be tolerated in America's premier fighting force. Members of the Army Team should employ "Think, Type, Post" when engaging on social media sites. "Think" about the message being communicated and who could potentially view it now and for years to come; "Type" a communication that is consistent with Army Values; and "Post" only those messages that demonstrate dignity and respect for self and others.

Not in Our Army!


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DANIEL A. DAILEY MARK A. MILLEY ROBERT M. SPEER
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SGT Edward Wilcox
SGT Edward Wilcox
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SSG (Join to see) - It is truly ironic that you would claim professionalism, respect and courtesy considering the way you were to me. Respect and courtesy is a 2 way street. I am an NCO, just like you. I may have a lower rank, but I AM NOT "lower enlisted". You have a great deal to learn about being a good leader. Let me be the first to educate you. A good leader shows just as much, if not more, respect to his subordinates than he expects to get from them. A good leader does not rely solely on his rank and the regulations to get his men and women to do things for him. I once had an NCO, who happened to be my instructor in PLDC, tell me that any one can tell others what to do, but a good NCO is one who can get them to WANT to do what you tell them to do. Summary, it's all about loyalty. Show them that you are someone worthy of their loyalty, and you will have it. The respect and courtesy, beyond what is required by regulation, come later.

You were rude to me, first. I answered you question and gave you supporting material to back up my answer, and gave you a starting point to find your own answers. You failed to show respect and courtesy to a fellow NCO. The fact that you see me, not as a fellow NCO, but as a "lower enlisted", shows that you are not, yet, worthy of anything more than the bare minimum required by regulation. As such, you will never receive more than that.

You, sir, are what's wrong with the NCO Corps in today's Army. It's not your fault. The Army stopped teaching leadership in NCO schools. I only hope that, one day, you lose the arrogance and learn what it means to really be an NCO.

I say again, get over yourself.
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