Posted on Nov 12, 2019
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I am pcs to JBER in 8 days and I don’t wanna freeze to death. so what clothing items should I get to stay toasty and warm?
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Lt Col Jim Coe
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I was assigned to Elmendorf and lived in AK for four years. My son has lived there for over 20 years. People who are assigned to AK and go there with a positive attitude usually like it. Like me, they may consider it the best assignment of their lives. You appear to be new to the Army, so I'll keep my advice oriented to junior enlisted with minimum income.

The Army will issue you Arctic gear. It should provide you all the clothing and equipment you'll need to work in a cold environment. Your job as a fuels specialist requires you to handle one of the most valuable materials in the Arctic, diesel fuel with cold weather additives. (Without the additives, diesel can become like jello overnight.) Pay close attention to instructions from your NCOs. They want you to work safely in a cold environment. You should be afforded warming breaks after working in the cold (there's actually a chart for this). Dress in layers. Sweat is the enemy of warm. When you have physical work to do, shed a layer or two to prevent sweating. I remember fuels Airmen wearing just an insulated underwear shirt and work uniform pants while hauling a fuel hose from the truck to connect with single-point refueling receptacle on a C-130.

You probably will be authorized to wear some of your issued Arctic clothing with civilian clothing, such as a parka. Again, the Army wants you safe and warm. Normal civilian clothing is casual. Jeans and flannel shirt/blouse are standard wardrobe for almost everybody at all occasions. Have an extra pair of sox and gloves with you when you'll be out for more than 30 minutes.

Take full advantage of your time off. Learn to ski. Go to an amateur hockey game. Hike and fish in the summer. Spring starts with "breakup" sometime in May in the Anchorage area and lasts until the "termination dust" (light snow) shows up in the post parade ground or your yard.

I wish you the best of luck! Let me know how it goes.
LCDR Joshua Gillespie
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Are we talking uniform or civilian attire, or both? ECWS (version whatever they're currently on now) is pretty good stuff ( I finally replaced all my GoreTex!)... which is why a lot of us on the "outside" spend hours scouring eBay for it LOL! The trick to cold weather is layering... you need the ability to efficiently trap body heat, and remove/add layers depending on activity level, ambient temp, etc. A good, breathable base layer is a must... your outer layers should be designed to keep moisture out/heat in. Merino Wool socks are a good investment, as is GoreTex. A lot of folks overlook good gloves and boots. Depending on what you are issued, you might want a pair of aviator gloves to either wear as a liner, or for more "fine tuning" work you might encounter when your outer gloves are too bulky. Remember that you lose body heat quickly through the head... and make sure you're protecting exposed skin from the wind as well as the cold. Just personal preference, but I always liked wearing stuff that was a little less bulky, as opposed to dressing like an Eskimo. You pay a price though for not having sufficient "air space" to warm inside layers. It's all a balancing act between function and comfort.
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PVT Jayla Selvey also what is ECWS?
LCDR Joshua Gillespie
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Extreme Cold Weather System (ECWS)... maybe they don't call it that any longer. Back when I was issued it, it included base layers, all intermediate and outer layers, etc.

So far as civilian attire goes, same rules... more options... higher cost. On the very high end, you've got brands like KUIU, Patagonia, Arctyrex, Massif and Canada Expedtion. The North Face offers some good stuff, but there's a wide range in capability relative to cost (i.e., the "brand" doesn't automatically guarantee it's the "right" choice). I've got some pretty decent Under Armor stuff, designed for skiing/snowboarding... but I wouldn't want it for anything particularly rugged.

On the more reasonable side, Bass Pro, Cabelas, etc. offer some good stuff.

Some other thoughts: Cotton is comfortable and cheap... but performs poorly. Wool has been the standard for ages for good reason; it resists moisture and holds heat well, but is heavy and expensive. Synthetics offer great performance, but only if designed to trap heat without creating moisture inside your layers. GoreTex is good. Down holds heat great... until it gets wet, then it sucks, and sucks hard.
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LCDR Joshua Gillespie - ECWCS is still issued, we're on GEN III, and it's still fantastic. ECWCS is also commonly referred to as the 7-Layer system as it consists of seven layers.
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SSG (Join to see) - When I received it at Dix, it was the DCU GoreTex, the "Bear Suit", and the "waffle" PolarTec stuff... loved it.
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