Posted on Aug 1, 2020
MSgt J D McKee
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I.E. Veterans get to vote and to hold public office. No one else. Because they have paid for the privilege, and because no one should command troops who has not been a troop. Lets please don't get off on whether it's a right or a privilege, it is whatever Congress votes that it is.
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MSgt J D McKee
MSgt J D McKee
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I'd SO love to see that as a Super Bowl ad......
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MSgt J D McKee
MSgt J D McKee
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Probably too late to put it there now, I wish I'd been able to put that picture up top with the question. This is my first original question and I'm learning...
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SSgt Tony Lamb
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Bottom line up front, I only saw the movie; I never read the book. What Heinlein meant in Starship Troopers and what I got out of it might be different, but here goes.

In the movie, one government run by the military governs the entire planet. To maintain that control, that stratocracy has to create enemies. Otherwise, the public is going to figure out they don’t need the military junta to run things. In the movie, the bugs really weren’t bothering anyone. They’re bugs, doing bug things, propagating their species by launching spores into space. One of those spore meteors landed on Buenos Aires and earth went to war. The political system created the enemy to maintain power.

We started as a civilian-run government. If we insist that only veterans can vote and hold office, that service guarantees citizenship, we will have created Heinlein's paradigm. Probably. Without the bugs.
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LTC Jason Mackay - This is one of those cases where the book was much better than the movie.
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MSgt J D McKee
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LTC Jason Mackay - Yeah, that's exactly what they did. Unlike the book.
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MSgt J D McKee
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SGM (Join to see) - I just think of them as two different things, a shit movie I like to watch drunk occasionally, and a book which may be the best written of it's genre. Maybe started the genre? Military scifi
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LTC Jason Mackay
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MSgt J D McKee - the military sci-fi goes much further back. Military SciFi and Military Fiction have been ways for military professionals who have divergent views to express them and to influence the public and their profession. The original war of the worlds was actually supposed to influence the British people into military preparedness against a German ground offensive. Invincible Aliens were really Germans. There others I am sure that go back further.

To understand Starship Troopers, you have to look at Heinlein's non-fiction books. Themes were: how to take back your democracy, being a responsible member of a society, especially a democracy. Following Heinlein's medical separation from the Navy in the 1920's, he ran for office a couple times to no avail.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
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I believe that those that have NO skin in the game should not have a say as to how things are run.
If one had to EARN the right to vote, and Politicians could be prevented from becoming career politicians then we would be better off.
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MSgt J D McKee
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The premise of Starship Troopers was that military service made one a Citizen. That would in one stroke solve any disagreement over the Second Amendment (PBUH).
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SSG Roger Ayscue
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MSgt J D McKee - Peace Be Upon Who?
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MSgt J D McKee
MSgt J D McKee
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Heh. My little joke that isn't really a joke. I thought it was Praise Be Under Heaven, and in muslim countries they put that after every mention of the prophet. I feel the same way about the 2nd. (PBUH)
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