Green to Gold
Green to Gold
Posted on Jan 18, 2019
How can my husband pursue assignment stability after finishing G2G so that I can finish my education?
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Hello! I have a complex situation, that I need help discerning. I will attempt to explain everything in as much detail as I can! Basically, I am looking for some advice pertaining to my husband's career as well as my educational goals - how can we get both of us what we want.
First and foremost my husband is an active duty soldier, prior National Guard service. This is our first duty station, and technically his first year in service. The poor man attended college and nearly got an associate's degree before some major things happened resulting in him dropping out. Long story short, he wants to continue his education and make the student loans worth it. After obtaining his associates degree he plans to apply for green to gold: active duty. If everything is time right, this will align with our PCS perfectly.
Assuming everything works out as planned and my husband is accepted into G2G, receives his commission and everything that follows will he be sent to another duty station or is there a possibility we can stay?
Unfortunately, I have decided to pursue an education that requires an obnoxious amount of schooling, and I have found the PERFECT school for my aspirations. Of course, with everything my husband has planned, and the possibility of the unknown I doubt I will be able to attend said college unless I plan to break up my family. Without a doubt this will be the most difficult thing to accomplish, and more than likely will be ruined by the needs of the army! I just want to know what the likelyhood of my husband being forced to another post is before he is technically required to PCS?
First and foremost my husband is an active duty soldier, prior National Guard service. This is our first duty station, and technically his first year in service. The poor man attended college and nearly got an associate's degree before some major things happened resulting in him dropping out. Long story short, he wants to continue his education and make the student loans worth it. After obtaining his associates degree he plans to apply for green to gold: active duty. If everything is time right, this will align with our PCS perfectly.
Assuming everything works out as planned and my husband is accepted into G2G, receives his commission and everything that follows will he be sent to another duty station or is there a possibility we can stay?
Unfortunately, I have decided to pursue an education that requires an obnoxious amount of schooling, and I have found the PERFECT school for my aspirations. Of course, with everything my husband has planned, and the possibility of the unknown I doubt I will be able to attend said college unless I plan to break up my family. Without a doubt this will be the most difficult thing to accomplish, and more than likely will be ruined by the needs of the army! I just want to know what the likelyhood of my husband being forced to another post is before he is technically required to PCS?
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This is actually a pretty easy fix. As everyone very accurately pointed out to you, there is no stability after commissioning and it will take a few months of BOLC after that.
As a career counselor, I VERY rarely counsel people to pursue the active duty green to gold option unless they are shit hot. There are only 200 a year. If he isn't winning Soldier of the quarter/year boards, maxing his APFT and pulling down a 3.5 GPA, I wouldn't make solid plans based on AD G2G because his competitors are doing those things.
However, what is very doable is Army OCS. He just needs a bachelor degree and he can finish it at his own pace as long as he's below the age and time in service threshold for applying.
As a career counselor, I VERY rarely counsel people to pursue the active duty green to gold option unless they are shit hot. There are only 200 a year. If he isn't winning Soldier of the quarter/year boards, maxing his APFT and pulling down a 3.5 GPA, I wouldn't make solid plans based on AD G2G because his competitors are doing those things.
However, what is very doable is Army OCS. He just needs a bachelor degree and he can finish it at his own pace as long as he's below the age and time in service threshold for applying.
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LTC Jason Mackay
Julia Cardarelli in addition to SFC (Join to see) very viable OCS recommendation: Another possible option is to complete this enlistment contract, apply to colleges, use the Post 9/11 GI Bill, join the ARNG in that state (states usually have a tuition waiver), do (or don't) SMP as a Guardsman, apply for an ROTC scholarship, and pursue ROTC. Sit down and talk to a ROTC recruiting person (not USAREC) and see about curtailed options based on what his degree plan has left (in some cases ROTC can be satisfactorily completed in 2 years). You may get a RC commission, you may get AD. If you do get a RC commission, you can compete to transfer to AD after the fact. Your school option may fit somewhere in there.
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LTC Jason Mackay also a very good recommendation if they can afford to leave AD. He can also fast track to ROTC by requesting G2G non scholarship option and they will separate him immediately to Cadet Command and he will still be eligible for SMP.
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Julia Cardarelli
Thank you! We have looked into OCS and G2G but were unsure which would be better for his career. We were under the impression that g2g would be easier, I suppose. I appreciate your response, and the information you shared. Thank you.
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Julia Cardarelli when you go through a commissioning program you come out the other side with absolutely no guarantee on anything. You can request to go to a certain installation after BOLC, but it is just that. His branch will fill needs of the Army, if they can make you guys happy they will, but needs of the Army will come first.
If his plan is green to gold, the associates degree is really superfluous. Recommend any Course work he pursues be transferable and applicable to the bachelor's degree program. he could conceivably work so if selected for G2G, he has a minimal course load.
If your perfect school has a degree and ROTC program for your husband, you could concievably go to the same school. Just understand G2G will have time commitments. Four day FTX's, Daily PT, leadership lab etc.
If your ideal school is where you are now, it may be beneficial for you to surge now and have your husband delay G2G for the time being. It's hard to provide advice since the information is vague. Degree programs, school educational approaches, PCS clock, cost, obnoxious level of time commitment. The struggle you describe is the friction in every military famiy including mine. My wife finished her credential for teaching two years into my retirement. We both made choices. We both did masters degrees at the same time. When we met, she didn't have a degree yet. We spent some time apart for schooling and the Army. Most of the time we were together.
https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-i-choose-an-army-branch-a-framework
If his plan is green to gold, the associates degree is really superfluous. Recommend any Course work he pursues be transferable and applicable to the bachelor's degree program. he could conceivably work so if selected for G2G, he has a minimal course load.
If your perfect school has a degree and ROTC program for your husband, you could concievably go to the same school. Just understand G2G will have time commitments. Four day FTX's, Daily PT, leadership lab etc.
If your ideal school is where you are now, it may be beneficial for you to surge now and have your husband delay G2G for the time being. It's hard to provide advice since the information is vague. Degree programs, school educational approaches, PCS clock, cost, obnoxious level of time commitment. The struggle you describe is the friction in every military famiy including mine. My wife finished her credential for teaching two years into my retirement. We both made choices. We both did masters degrees at the same time. When we met, she didn't have a degree yet. We spent some time apart for schooling and the Army. Most of the time we were together.
https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-i-choose-an-army-branch-a-framework
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LTC Jason Mackay
Julia Cardarelli the timelining suggestion from LTC (Join to see) can help you sort this out, or at least identify the friction points in a logical manner with your husband without dumping out your duffelbag of unknowns before the Rallypoint gallery. You may find you don't really have an issue. Take into account timing of applications and decision notifications. There is a lot of waiting, doesn't matter where you are during a three to six month wait. Or you could use it to knock out classes.
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If I understand question correctly, he more than likely he will have to PCS after college graduation. After getting a commission, new officers must attend a 3-4 month BOLC (Basic Officer Leadership Course) to learn branch skills similar to enlisted attending AIT for MOS skills. After BOLC completion, he will go to another duty station if he is active duty (duty station and branch choices are significantly determined by school/ROTC performance and Army need along with personal preference).
If I understand question correctly, he more than likely he will have to PCS after college graduation. After getting a commission, new officers must attend a 3-4 month BOLC (Basic Officer Leadership Course) to learn branch skills similar to enlisted attending AIT for MOS skills. After BOLC completion, he will go to another duty station if he is active duty (duty station and branch choices are significantly determined by school/ROTC performance and Army need along with personal preference).
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