Posted on Apr 26, 2018
Tony McQueary
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Okay so had my last consult today for my thumb I passed everything else the waiver is because I lacerated my flexor tendon in my thumb the medical chief said I need a waiver but then said he don't know if it will get approved or not so I guess my question is what's the odds of the waiver getting approved???
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Not enough information. However, in the Military, just about anything can happen with a waiver. If the right person wants something to happen, it’s a signature away.
“Non-waiverable”.
“”But sir, mission will fail if we don’t waiver (fill in the blank)”
“Say no more (as he’s filling out the paper work)”
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Pvt Antonio Silveria - if I were handing out waivers, I’d ask, “the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. In the past, you misbehaved in the military and were put out. In the past, you’ve also learned from that mistake and become a successful civilian. Why get off the successful path only to get back on the path in which you weren’t successful? What behavior can I expect in the future?”
Anyone that would sign off on a waiver is signing putting his name on a known problem. Expect tough questions and be be prepared to give candid, honest answers.
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Pvt Antonio Silveria
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I refrain from blowing up Tony Mcquearys thread any further with my own interests. Your opinion is welcome Mr. Anoymous and thank you for it, but not everyone is forever broken.
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Pvt Antonio Silveria
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Pvt Antonio Silveria - you seem to be taking this personally, and you shouldn’t. I don’t know you or your situation. Please note, I never said you were broken, let alone broken forever.
My experience in the military was that soldiering was not for everyone. It’s also generally a good rule of thumb that past behavior is an indicator of future behavior. The military didn’t work out for you. There’s no shame in that.
Civilian life appears to be working out for you. I commend you, especially if you had to really turn things around.
The Army is a lot of things. “Unforgiving” can be one of them. If you want to rejoin today, to get a waiver, you better be Wolf of Wallstreet level convincing. Because the Army doesn’t need soldiers badly enough to need a soldier with a stained past. Someone high up with waiver granting authority would have to realllly want you. That just usually doesn’t happen.
Now, if WW III broke out tomorrow, and the Army needed to double the size of force in one year, I’m willing to bet that waivers would start to flow like water. Supply and demand. Right now, the demand for prior service with misconduct just isn’t very high.

As for “mr. Anonymous”. Absolutely. I enjoy RP and staying somewhat in touch with the life. But I’m not here to network or make pals. I come from a highly sensitive, very low volume mos where opsec is a big deal. Old habits die hard. Past behavior, future behavior, right? Feel free to look through anything I’ve posted on other threads...if you think my opinions don’t hold weight, well, agree to disagree. My name, previous units, deployments..frankly, those don’t matter. But my $.02 added with everyone else’s helps make a full dollar for the next wave of soldiers, and that’s what RP is for.
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CPT Enrique M.
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hate to say it, but none of us would be able to answer that question.

second part is without knowing your history or what your limitations are , only a doc that specializes on that type of injury could essentially say yay/nay to your waiver. So the medical chief is technically right he won't know if it will be approved. If its not approved right away and the review board looking at it needs more info , they will more than likely send you to do a consult. or they can just deny you.

wait and see , is all the advice I have at this time.
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Tony McQueary
Tony McQueary
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I mean I can use it do everything I use to do when it did bend just can not bend it at the joint closest to the tip of my thumb and the only thing I can not fully do with it is make a full fist like my thumb sticks up a little and that's it I'm just trying to see what the odds of it getting approved is or not because I use it every day I mean I can take apart guns with it hold stuff right with it if I needed to I all ready went for a consult to a specialist just waiting on the waiver to come back approved I hope
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Tony McQueary
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And also my recruiter says it should be good and get approved and so did a couple other recruiters said the same thing just stressing over it to much I guess lol
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TSgt David Holman
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I can't speak to the future, but there are a couple of questions that could lead you in the right direction. Was the injury resolved? Did you regain full function of the extremity? Did you regain full range of motion of the extremity? If there is a residual disability to the injury, would it limit your ability to perform your duties to the fullest extent?

When the military takes you in as a recruit, they expect to be working with "brand new out of the box" bodies... not major injuries. They can accept refurbished as long as they are gently used and restored to original function. Good luck.
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Tony McQueary
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I mean I can use it to hold stuff pick up stuff I can touch all my other fingers with it I just can not bend it at the joint closest to the tip of my thumb so when I try to make a fist it kinda sticks up a little like a little thumbs up
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