Posted on Jul 23, 2017
Mandela effect US ARMY USES SWASTIKA PATCH
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From Swastika to Thunderbird
For the first 15 years of its existence, members of the 45th Infantry Division proudly wore on their left shoulders an ancient American Indian symbol of good luck, most commonly referred to as the swastika. The insignia served as recognition of the great number of Native Americans proudly serving in the 45th Infantry Division. The yellow swastika on a square background of red symbolized the Spanish Heritage of the 4 Southwestern states that made up the membership of the 45th—Oklahoma, New Mexico, Colorado, and Arizona. A similar symbol was adopted by the Nazi party in the late 1920’s, and as the N.S.D.A.P. rose to power in 1933 the symbol became so closely associated with German National socialism that it had to be abandoned as the insignia of the 45th Infantry Division.
For many months division members wore no insignia, while the design for a new emblem was being explored. The 45th Infantry Division held a contest to assist in selection of the new insignia and many designs were submitted. The contest was overseen by a board of officers who eventually determined the Thunderbird would become the new insignia of the 45th Infantry Division. In keeping with the tradition formerly established, it was also decided to maintain the same colors and design of the original insignia.
In 1939 after approval of the Commanding General, Eighth Corps Area, and the Chief of the National Guard Bureau, the Thunderbird design was officially approved by the War Department and authorized for manufacture and wear. The document approving the design, which was to become famous in World War II and the Korean War, stated that, the Thunderbird was a Native American symbol signifying "sacred bearer of happiness unlimited."
http://www.45thdivisionmuseum.com/History/SwastikaToThunderbird.html
http://rexcurry.net/45th-infantry-division-swastika-sooner-soldiers.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/45th_Infantry_Division_(United_States)
@ col mikel COL Mikel J. Burroughs @ ltc stephen LTC Stephen C. @ ltc stephen LTC Stephen F. @ ltc john LTC John Mohor @ maj william Maj William W. 'Bill' Price @ capt tom Capt Tom Brown @ capt marty Maj Marty Hogan @ smsgt doc SMSgt Minister Gerald A. "Doc" Thomas @ tsgt joe TSgt Joe C. @ sra christopher SrA Christopher Wright @ sra chris SrA Chris "Shadow" McGee @ msg andrew MSG Andrew White @ sfc joe SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL @ sgt david SGT (Join to see) @ sgt david SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth @ sp5 mark SP5 Mark Kuzinski SCPO Morris Ramsey @ po1 chip PO1 William "Chip" Nagel Alan K. Cynthia Croft
From Swastika to Thunderbird
For the first 15 years of its existence, members of the 45th Infantry Division proudly wore on their left shoulders an ancient American Indian symbol of good luck, most commonly referred to as the swastika. The insignia served as recognition of the great number of Native Americans proudly serving in the 45th Infantry Division. The yellow swastika on a square background of red symbolized the Spanish Heritage of the 4 Southwestern states that made up the membership of the 45th—Oklahoma, New Mexico, Colorado, and Arizona. A similar symbol was adopted by the Nazi party in the late 1920’s, and as the N.S.D.A.P. rose to power in 1933 the symbol became so closely associated with German National socialism that it had to be abandoned as the insignia of the 45th Infantry Division.
For many months division members wore no insignia, while the design for a new emblem was being explored. The 45th Infantry Division held a contest to assist in selection of the new insignia and many designs were submitted. The contest was overseen by a board of officers who eventually determined the Thunderbird would become the new insignia of the 45th Infantry Division. In keeping with the tradition formerly established, it was also decided to maintain the same colors and design of the original insignia.
In 1939 after approval of the Commanding General, Eighth Corps Area, and the Chief of the National Guard Bureau, the Thunderbird design was officially approved by the War Department and authorized for manufacture and wear. The document approving the design, which was to become famous in World War II and the Korean War, stated that, the Thunderbird was a Native American symbol signifying "sacred bearer of happiness unlimited."
http://www.45thdivisionmuseum.com/History/SwastikaToThunderbird.html
http://rexcurry.net/45th-infantry-division-swastika-sooner-soldiers.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/45th_Infantry_Division_(United_States)
@ col mikel COL Mikel J. Burroughs @ ltc stephen LTC Stephen C. @ ltc stephen LTC Stephen F. @ ltc john LTC John Mohor @ maj william Maj William W. 'Bill' Price @ capt tom Capt Tom Brown @ capt marty Maj Marty Hogan @ smsgt doc SMSgt Minister Gerald A. "Doc" Thomas @ tsgt joe TSgt Joe C. @ sra christopher SrA Christopher Wright @ sra chris SrA Chris "Shadow" McGee @ msg andrew MSG Andrew White @ sfc joe SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL @ sgt david SGT (Join to see) @ sgt david SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth @ sp5 mark SP5 Mark Kuzinski SCPO Morris Ramsey @ po1 chip PO1 William "Chip" Nagel Alan K. Cynthia Croft
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SGT John " Mac " McConnell good share my friend, I could not understand the Audio, but a great read my friend.
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SGT John " Mac " McConnell
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Audio was very low volume.... Thanks SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL .
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Like I always say, you learn something new every day.....Thanks for the History lesson, just like old times...!!!
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SGT John " Mac " McConnell
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Thanks Alan K. . I know I try to learn something new everyday. Thanks my friend...
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Political correctness seems to have been alive and well in the USA in the 1940s SGT John " Mac " McConnell
The patch of the 45th ID was time honored and the "yellow swastika on a square background of red symbolized the Spanish Heritage of the 4 Southwestern states that made up the membership of the 45th—Oklahoma, New Mexico, Colorado, and Arizona."
Yes, the Nazi's developed a symbol of a black cross of a white background on a sea of red.
However crosses had been used for millennia before the Nazis made their us of it.
It was unfortunate that the 45th Infantry Division was convinced to give up its patch simply because it resembled the Nazi's image. Shame on whoever was behind that decision
This reminds me of attempts to rewrite our own history and strip away sports team names and symbols among other things.
LTC Stephen C. Maj William W. 'Bill' Price Capt Christopher Mueller Capt Seid Waddell CW5 (Join to see) SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT SSgt (Join to see) SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT Robert George SP5 Robert Ruck SCPO Morris RamseyCPL Eric Escasio SPC (Join to see) SrA Christopher Wright SPC Margaret Higgins LTC Bill Koski LTC Wayne Brandon
The patch of the 45th ID was time honored and the "yellow swastika on a square background of red symbolized the Spanish Heritage of the 4 Southwestern states that made up the membership of the 45th—Oklahoma, New Mexico, Colorado, and Arizona."
Yes, the Nazi's developed a symbol of a black cross of a white background on a sea of red.
However crosses had been used for millennia before the Nazis made their us of it.
It was unfortunate that the 45th Infantry Division was convinced to give up its patch simply because it resembled the Nazi's image. Shame on whoever was behind that decision
This reminds me of attempts to rewrite our own history and strip away sports team names and symbols among other things.
LTC Stephen C. Maj William W. 'Bill' Price Capt Christopher Mueller Capt Seid Waddell CW5 (Join to see) SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT SSgt (Join to see) SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT Robert George SP5 Robert Ruck SCPO Morris RamseyCPL Eric Escasio SPC (Join to see) SrA Christopher Wright SPC Margaret Higgins LTC Bill Koski LTC Wayne Brandon
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Capt Seid Waddell
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I have seen Native American art from the 1800's that contained a backwards swastika. Clearly that predated the Nazis, and was one of their symbols that had been in use for quite some time.
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