Posted on Apr 9, 2017
SPC James Harsh
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The scenario is about using an atm and the suggestions of what to do, should they be different for CC'ers
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The Jerry Brown Governor Moonbeam of California would prefer you give them the money since only criminals have guns and now only criminals have high capacity magazines including terrorist but if you live in Illinois New York Massachusetts or other states that are liberal but have strict gun laws God help you. But if you live in Idaho or Utah or other states that have concealed carry better make sure you kill the bad guy because the ACLU and the bad guy are going to try to sue you
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PO1 John Crafton - So again the legacy is the law written by nieve and progressive legislators like Gov. Jerry Brown favors the criminals.
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PO1 John Crafton - Then the video camera footage at the bank parking lot or ATM will be the evidence to defend one who shoots a bad guy trying to steal your money . But look what Governor Brown did in this cartoon. (not sure if this cartoon is factual. If it is, then its really sad)
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PO1 John Crafton -.... but Barbara Boxer and other Liberal senators/congresspeople exempt themselves and they have gun permits for over a decade! Leftist Stukas rule over Sacramento
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I was visiting family in Cali and went to the BofA nearby to hit the ATM. Saw a van parked nearby in the lot with the side door open and a guy standing about 20 feet away from the ATM with a backpack with some wires coming out of his shirt sleeve. I pulled around and called 911 from the car. LAPD was there in force in about 3 minutes and collected the guy with the skimmer receiver, the guy in the van with the spotting scope, and that was it. When giving my statement, the officer said they were looking some time for these guys and were surprised I noticed and were less surprised I was exMIL and just nodded in an understanding manner when I told them I spent some time overseas. We tend to stick to our old observational habits.
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CSM Charles Hayden
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Thank you! Well done! CAPT Kevin B.
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This is good advice regardless of your carry status. If you're being cased for a robbery you probably will not get the chance to draw your weapon without precipitating violence. If you're just a little too paranoid, you risk drawing on an innocent and will get you into very hot water.
Remember that keeping a low profile is best. Also, you're carrying a weapon to protect life, not a few dollars. You should never draw your weapon in public unless there is no other way to prevent serious injury or death. Period.
You can only cry self-defense if you could reasonably be assumed to have been in fear of your life or the life of another. Shooting a bad guy in the street just because he wants your money will get you an orange jumpsuit.
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Concur. In NC, "deadly force" is authorized ONLY for being in fear of your life, grievous bodily injury, or sexual assault. You cannot use deadly force to protect property.
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SPC Nancy Greene
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So, what is your position on The Stand your Ground laws? Just curious. Thought your post ‘hit the nail on the head’!
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SSG Dale London
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SPC Nancy Greene - I have a pretty firm view on this. If I'm out and about and a threat to life arises, if I have the ability to reduce that threat, and if by my failing to do so I or someone else is in danger of death or grave injury, I have a duty to resist that threat. To Run away, leaving undefended persons in danger when I could do something to stop it would be the height of cowardice. If I did so I would deserve the scorn and disdain that would undoubtedly be heaped upon me.
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