JAG
JAG
Posted on Jun 21, 2018
Does the QMP board look at one bad NCOER as stand alone, or will they take a whole career into account?
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I just received my first bad NCOER after 17 years in the Army. To be honest it was a bit harsh and my rater and I really did not get along. I believe that he purposely sabotaged my clearance over a small issue that removed me from my position. I feel I did not meet his expectations in some areas, and I had one issue with my clearance that has temporary removed me from my position (failing to report a marriage). I did not get a RFC, but I receive 2 bad bullets and my senior rater who never once spoke to me gave me an unqualified. I am scared I will lose my career right as my time is winding down. Can anyone tell me does the QMP board look at this NCOER as stand alone, or will they take my whole career into account. I am very scared about losing my career, and I am hoping that the Army will allow me to recover from this.
My last 2 NCOERS praised me very well, higly qualified and among the best. I am at my ropes end with my current unit, since leadership went behind my back while I was in SLC to make all of this happen, I was given no way to defend my self in any of this.
My last 2 NCOERS praised me very well, higly qualified and among the best. I am at my ropes end with my current unit, since leadership went behind my back while I was in SLC to make all of this happen, I was given no way to defend my self in any of this.
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Even if you come down on QMP you can always send back a rebuttal to show why you should not be discharged.
I came down on QMP last year (2017) because I hadn't done SLC within 3 years TIG. I had to defer it because my daughter has had serious medical issues. I got a memo that stated I came up on QMP and what my options were. You select either you want to rebut it or you will take what they have and be discharged. If you do rebut it, you send in all supporting documentation you can. I sent in doctors letters, the deferment paperwork, and letters from current and prior leadership as to why I should stay and that as soon as her condition improved I would go to SLC. They allowed me to stay and I went to SLC this year since she had her transplant in October last year (I was going to go either way).
I don't know exactly what QMP looks at and if they're hell bent on getting people out since we aren't drawing down anymore.
If you come down on QMP you rebut it and give reasons and proof why you shouldn't be kicked out. However, I don't see how what you said it is all on your rater or senior rater or leadership. You fully admit you failed to report a marriage and that caused clearance issues. That is on you. If you didn't meet rater expectations...it is saying something that if you never have talked to your senior rater how they can rate you.
You will just have to wait and see what happens I think. I don't know that anyone can predict what will happen.
I came down on QMP last year (2017) because I hadn't done SLC within 3 years TIG. I had to defer it because my daughter has had serious medical issues. I got a memo that stated I came up on QMP and what my options were. You select either you want to rebut it or you will take what they have and be discharged. If you do rebut it, you send in all supporting documentation you can. I sent in doctors letters, the deferment paperwork, and letters from current and prior leadership as to why I should stay and that as soon as her condition improved I would go to SLC. They allowed me to stay and I went to SLC this year since she had her transplant in October last year (I was going to go either way).
I don't know exactly what QMP looks at and if they're hell bent on getting people out since we aren't drawing down anymore.
If you come down on QMP you rebut it and give reasons and proof why you shouldn't be kicked out. However, I don't see how what you said it is all on your rater or senior rater or leadership. You fully admit you failed to report a marriage and that caused clearance issues. That is on you. If you didn't meet rater expectations...it is saying something that if you never have talked to your senior rater how they can rate you.
You will just have to wait and see what happens I think. I don't know that anyone can predict what will happen.
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You’re an Intel guy and you failed to report a marriage. If it was to a foreign national that’s a big failure. So being removed from your position causes a couple of issues. First, you’re not available to work, second, you cause a security threat. If I was the 2 I would have slammed you too. But, your saving grace is that when you hit 18 years you will be locked into sanctuary, if you apply. So just make it to 18 and you should be good for retirement if that is what you are looking for. Appeal till you hit 18. If that doesn’t work join the Reserves or Guard to finish out. But really, I’m not sure how you thought you were going to defend against the facts? The DOD and Army policy is very clear. If you were in my shop I would have removed you permanently to show the other team members the seriousness of your mistake. QMP looks at everything but I’m sure this evaluation will be weighted heavy. Good luck.
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So Ironically I went to the 8th Army G2 (since I worked in the G2 at Humphreys right before the transition) to report the foreign contact, but the SSO or SSR there told me that since she was already in the US as a permanent resident and green card holder she was considered a US Person and I did not need to report her. She is a originally form the Philippians and has been living in the states and working on FT Huachuca well before I met her, so its not like I met her overseas. I went off some bad advice from who I thought the experts were.
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The Col advice above is wrong. QMP can and definitely will separate you after 18 years! The sanctuary law does not apply with QMP.
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Praying for you, Staff Sergeant Bozo, that your whole career might be taken into consideration. - Margaret C. Higgins U.S. Army Retired
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