Posted on Oct 19, 2020
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Can I get assistance with my dissertation question for my Ph.D. by answering a short survey?

I am completing my Ph.D. and will be doing my dissertation on military science and business management/leadership. My dissertation is specifically about how a company (this case the Army) can keep higher quality soldiers in the military and set them up for success as they transition.

My survey is broken into three categories. If you fall into a category and want to help me, please leave your TIS (or timer served if out). All names and ranks will be removed and only TIS will be used for the dissertation. If you do not feel comfortable posting answers and still want to assist me, feel free to DM me.

For soldiers that served more than one contract and then got out, why did you decide to get out? What skills did the army and ETS/SFL programs teach you that were helpful in your civilian sector? What do you wish you learned that you didn't?

For those that have been in for more than one contract and are still actively in. Why did you decide to stay in? What have you learned that you anticipate to use in the civilian sector? What do you still wish to learn before leaving/retiring?

For those that retired and are now out of the military. Why did you decide to stay in and complete the full term?What skills did the army and ETS/SFL programs teach you that were helpful in your civilian sector? What do you wish you learned that you didnt?

Thank you for all of your assistance.
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CSM Eric Biggs
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You forgot about the guys who did some active duty time and then joined the guard or reserves, or those who only did guard/reserve. These can be quite different animals.
I ETS’d after 5 years active. As an Infantryman, I had no “transferable” skills. The Army did nothing that assisted me in my transition to civilian life. If they did or tried, I was to young and stupid to understand.
I did not get straight out, I actually transitioned to the reserves, I knew I would miss the Army and it was at leased a part time job, while I tried to figure life out.
I now have 20 years TIS, and will stay till the Army kicks me out or house hold 6 (my wife) is tired of me being gone all the time with this “part time” job.
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I promise i did not forget CSM, however, there is only so much I can include in a dissertation until it becomes difficult to navigate. I could also add in those that had a break in service and ask how their break went and what they wanted to learn or why they came back and how that changed them. I could also take the input on contractors that work with military as they receive a lot of our training as well. But I wanted to limit my paper to just three variables.

So I promised I didn't forget about all soldiers CSM, but adding in every variable would be too much for a scientific paper. I might look into the other variables for my residency paper this March.
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SSG (Join to see) makes sense good luck to you.
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Currently I have 5 years TIS, will be ETSing next year at 6 years TIS.
I opted to ETS for 2 reasons:
1) My spouse can not be successful (promote) in her career, when we will be moving every 4 years. Either she stays are her current "position" and we financially can not make more money, or I ETS and allow her to make more money than the Army can pay me, by far.
2) I joined at 27; an enlisted retirement of 40-50% (based on blended or not) financially is not worth it, when I can ETS and have a much larger retirement from a civilian job. If I would have joined at 18-21, a retirement from both the Army and a civilian job would have been possible.

I am a medic, the Army in no way sets us up for the outside. We perform WAY beyond what an EMT-B, and usually beyond what a Paramedic can, but are only licensed to that of an EMT-B in the civilian world. Which is barely a $30k a year job. I have learned that being an NCO makes you MUCH more desirable in the civilian sector, it is worth it to stay in a bit longer to ETS with your stripes at a minimum.
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Thank you for your response SGT.
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Capt Matt Mixon
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12 TIS (medically retired). I enlisted right out of high school in the Air Force because I wanted to become a pilot. Did full-time school during the evenings, commissioned soon after pinning on E-5. Graduated pilot training...got hurt and retired after 7 years flying in the USAF. Got out and entered law school because that’s the only thing I could see myself doing if not a pilot. *If they’d let me go back into jag after law school, I’d happily do that...but climbing out of the disabled/retired ladder will likely not happen.
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